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    Default Microsoft changes the Technet subscriptions rules

    hi !

    there is now 2 subscriptions, Standard & Pro.

    Standard does NOT include some Enterprise-software.

    there has also been a reduction in the number of keys you get for Windows 7, Windows XP, Office 2007 and Office 2010:
    with Standard you "only" get 2 keys, with Pro you get 5 keys.
    but for all other software itīs still 10 keys.


    since iīve been reading through ALL posts in the thread on the technet-forum, i have summarized all the important information.

    this info comes from Michael G Kinsman MSFT, Moderator. with some detailed explanations regarding my questions from Kenneth Myhre

    Here are the "NEW" rules:


    "The reduction is only for desktop version of Microsoft products, like Windows 7, Windows XP, Office 2007 and Office 2010. All other software has the same amount of keys as before."


    "There is no official list of how many keys you get per product. But except the list under, you get 10 keys per product. And ONE MAK key per Windows Server 2008 and R2 product. And a MAK key for Vista Enterprise on Technet Pro (100 activations).

    And here is my list with the number of keys per product that has changed the last week:
    Office 2010 Standard - 2 or 5 keys.
    Office 2010 Proplus - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Starter - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Starter N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Home Basic - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Home Premium - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Home Premium N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Professional - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Professional N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Ultimate - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Ultimate N and KN - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows 7 Enterprise - 500 activations only on Technet Pro (One MAK key = 500 activations) This MAK key also work on Win 7 Professional.
    Office 2007 Standard - 2 or 5 keys.
    Office 2007 Enterprise - 2 or 5 keys.
    Office 2007 Ultimate - 2 or 5 keys.
    Office 2007 Professional - 2 or 5 keys.
    Office 2007 Professional Plus - 2 or 5 keys.
    Access 2007 - 2 or 5 keys.
    Access 2010 - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Home Edition - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Home Edition K - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Home Edition KN - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Tablet PC Edition - 10 keys.
    Windows XP Professional - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Professional Edition K - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Professional Edition KN - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Professional x64 Edition - 2 or 5 keys.
    Windows XP Media Center Edition - 2 or 5 keys.

    You understand that 2 keys = Technet Standard and 5 keys = Technet pro? So we are clear on that.

    2 keys = 20 activations
    5 keys = 50 activations

    All other software gives you 10 keys. Or ONE MAK key with 500 activations (Server 2008 and R2) and 100 activations for Vista Enterprise (only on Technet Pro)"


    "
    Each MAK key has 500 activations. And you get:
    Technet Pro:

    • Windows Server 2008: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key, DataCenter = 1 MAK key, Web and HPC = 1 MAK key. Total of 1.500 activations on Server 2008
    • Windows Server 2008 R2: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key, DataCenter = 1 MAK key, Web and HPC = 1 MAK key. Total of 1.500 activations on Server 2008 R2
    • Windows 7 Enterprise and Professional = 1 MAK key
    • Windows Vista Enterprise and Business = 1 MAK key (only 100 activations)

    Technet Standard:

    • Windows Server 2008: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key, DataCenter = 1 MAK key. Total of 1.000 activation on Server 2008
    • Windows Server 2008 R2: Standard and Enterprise = 1 MAK key.

    So you can not say you don't get enough Windows Server activations. But on desktop software as Windows 7, Windows XP, Office 2007 and Office 2010 you get 2 x 10 or 5 x 10 activations at the max."

    and, the keys will NOT expire when your subscription ends !

    if you want to doublecheck for yourself, then all "FACTS" is from about halfway-down in the page....

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    Hey - thanks for the heads up - wasn't aware of it!

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    I subscribed last December when I was allowed 10 keys for Windows 7 for example, but when I log in, even though I've used 8 keys, it only says I can have 5 for this product!

    Surely Microsoft can't change the rules mid-subscription?
    I'd have gotten all 10 of my product keys in advance if I'd known!

    Also, I'm concerned that if I use a key to activate 10 machines, then there will be a problem when Microsoft constantly re-activates everything on a regular basis as it's going to via a recent Windows update to do with stopping counterfit keys..

    Any ideas?

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    I completely understand why they did this and have to agree with it to an extent. On the other hand, as a user who was close to purchasing a Technet Subscription, this put a downer frown on my face.

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    Thanks for sharing the very useful information. It will be very helpful for us.

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    hi !

    Microsoft has changed the rules, AGAIN !

    now itīs 2 / 5 keys for ALL programs !!!

    except for a few Enterprise-programs with MAK...

    from Technet-forum:

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Kenneth Myhre Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:50 PM

    MS has now updated one of their Technet FAQ ( Product Keys FAQ ) with this info:

    "
    Anti-Piracy Policy Changes


    Q. NEW Question: Why weren’t TechNet subscribers notified in
    advance?


    A. Unfortunately, Microsoft was not able to communicate this
    policy change in advance because it would increase the programs exposure to
    piracy if it became widely known that key availability would become limited.
    Having said this, as soon as the change was made we updated the TechNet
    Subscription user portal messaging, FAQ, and notified the Call Centers to ensure
    customer issues and concerns would be addressed appropriately. We regret this
    may have caused any inconvenience or confusion to legitimate subscribers.


    Q. What is the anti-piracy policy change?


    A. Microsoft is committed to helping prevent software
    piracy, which often results in end users being the victims of software
    counterfeiters. Counterfeiters abuse product keys to create fake software
    packages and distribute these to the public. These packages are not licensed, do
    not have support, and can also include malware and spyware. Therefore, Microsoft
    has decided to limit the number of product keys available through TechNet
    Subscriptions, for all products, to five for TechNet Professional and two for
    TechNet Standard. TechNet Subscriptions is intended to support software trial
    and evaluation, versus a production environment. We offer other programs for
    volume purchasing and installation. We believe this change maintains a
    sufficient number of product keys for the majority of our customers based on
    usage data, while greatly reducing the overall risk of piracy and
    counterfeiting. We apologize for any inconvenience or confusion that this
    action may have caused our subscribers.


    Q. How many keys do I get with the products I download or
    receive on disk as part of my TechNet Subscription?


    A. If you purchased a TechNet subscription through a Volume
    License agreement you get Volume Licensing keys for the products that need them.
    For purchase directly from Microsoft or through a reseller the following
    applies:


    • TechNet Professional (RETAIL): Current policy is that subscribers may access
      a maximum allocation of five keys from the download portal for use during the
      Subscription year to be used during the software evaluation process.
    • TechNet Standard (RETAIL):Current policy is that subscribers may access a
      maximum allocation of two keys from the download portal for use during the
      Subscription year to be used during the software evaluation process.


    Q. I used to be able to receive additional keys with my
    TechNet Subscription, how come I no longer can?


    A. Microsoft regularly reviews its product offerings
    relative to customer usage and other market conditions. As a result we have
    decided to make this change to the TechNet Subscriptions program. We apologize
    for any inconvenience this may cause.


    Q. I don't have enough keys and/or activations to evaluate
    the software on all of my machines. What do I do?


    A. In additional to purchasing another TechNet Subscription,
    there are trial versions of Microsoft software available from the TechNet
    Software Evaluation Center located at http://technet.microsoft.com/evalcenter/default.aspx"

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    reading the text above i discovered: "Microsoft has decided to limit the number of product keys available through TechNet
    Subscriptions, for all products, to five for TechNet Professional and two for TechNet Standard"

    "ALL PRODUCTS" !!!

    call me HAWKEYE....

    you can read the whole story over at Technet-forum: Technet Standard Keys
    Last edited by hackerman1; 10-06-2010 at 01:55 PM.

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    I subscribed last December when I was allowed 10 keys for Windows 7 for example, but when I log in, even though I've used 8 keys, it only says I can have 5 for this product!

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    yes.

    but donīt worry, Microsoft has said that those keys that you already had before the changes are still yours.

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