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    Amanda Guest

    Default AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
    I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently
    with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
    AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if
    you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
    kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was
    clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it
    cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
    after that the hijacking thing was gone.
    So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
    Are these likely to conflict with each other?
    Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
    forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
    Any thoughts appreciated.
    Thanks
    --
    Amanda B

  2. #2
    Big D Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    Amanda <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?


    Obviously - since it took all 3 to fix your system - yes. It's always
    good to use a few, rather than one or two.

    You can add Malwarebytes to the list. Also Spybot Search and Destroy.

    Personally, I've lost faith in AdAware. It finds a lot of benevolent
    "tracking cookies", and I find that annoying.

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    FromTheRafters Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup.

    Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it
    is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall"
    applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these
    applications is recommended to run at any given time. There
    are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any
    conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be
    used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety.

    Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know
    that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really
    determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they
    didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.

    "Amanda" <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    newsC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@microsoft.com...
    > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
    > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan
    > frequently
    > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
    > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do
    > if
    > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
    > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I
    > was
    > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan
    > it
    > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
    > after that the hijacking thing was gone.
    > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
    > Are these likely to conflict with each other?
    > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
    > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
    > Any thoughts appreciated.
    > Thanks
    > --
    > Amanda B




  4. #4
    Ken Blake Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    "Amanda" <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    newsC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@microsoft.com...

    > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
    > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan
    > frequently
    > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
    > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do
    > if
    > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
    > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I
    > was
    > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan
    > it
    > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
    > after that the hijacking thing was gone.
    > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
    > Are these likely to conflict with each other?
    > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
    > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
    > Any thoughts appreciated.



    No anti-spyware program is anywhere near 100% effective, and using two or
    more is exactly what you should do.

    Yes, AdAware is a good choice, as long as you don't rely on it alone.




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    Amanda Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    OK, well 3 opinions now that pretty much told me what I had thought. I
    realize now that there are plenty of posts here already about this, I could
    have searched further to find them, and I should have. Thanks for answering!
    --
    Amanda B


    "FromTheRafters" wrote:

    > Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup.
    >
    > Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it
    > is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall"
    > applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these
    > applications is recommended to run at any given time. There
    > are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any
    > conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be
    > used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety.
    >
    > Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know
    > that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really
    > determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they
    > didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.
    >
    > "Amanda" <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > newsC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@microsoft.com...
    > > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
    > > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan
    > > frequently
    > > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
    > > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do
    > > if
    > > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
    > > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I
    > > was
    > > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan
    > > it
    > > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
    > > after that the hijacking thing was gone.
    > > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
    > > Are these likely to conflict with each other?
    > > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
    > > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
    > > Any thoughts appreciated.
    > > Thanks
    > > --
    > > Amanda B

    >
    >
    >


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    Kayman Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:42:15 -0500, FromTheRafters wrote:

    > Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know
    > that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really
    > determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they
    > didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.


    Quite right! No scanning application can indicate/confirm "system is
    clean".
    "The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and rebuild."
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm0504.mspx

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    Spyware terminator is better than adware. Always use 2 or more anti spyware solutions. Windows defender is good one. But no adware blocking or not effective.

    I have Webroot spysweeper, A squared (Thanx to WVC for both) and KIS9 with WIN Defender. No attcak

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    Neil Jones Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    Amanda wrote:
    > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
    > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently
    > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
    > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if
    > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
    > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was
    > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it
    > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
    > after that the hijacking thing was gone.
    > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
    > Are these likely to conflict with each other?
    > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
    > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
    > Any thoughts appreciated.
    > Thanks



    I use the following:

    Spybot Search & Destroy
    ThreatFire
    Super Anti-Spyware
    Glary Utilities
    Malwarebytes

    All the above work with the Avast AV and Windows Defender.

    You would think that my system must be super secure. Once in a while my
    system will download a new spyware (from a website) which all the above
    scanners (with all updates being always current) are still not aware
    about the new strain of spyware. That is when I do complete restore
    from the backup. It is happening a little bit more frequently than I
    would like. So far this year I had to rebuild the laptop 3 times. In a
    nutshell, use a good set of anti spyware programs but also maintain a
    good backup of your entire computer.

    HTH. Good luck.

    NJ

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    The Max Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:49:56 +0530, phoenix_abhi
    <phoenix_abhi.3iln1v@winvistaclub.com> wrote:

    >Spyware terminator is better than adware.


    Never heard of it.

    --
    Max

  10. #10
    Hank Arnold (MVP) Guest

    Default Re: AVG, Windows Defender, AdAware?

    Neil Jones wrote:
    > Amanda wrote:
    >> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.
    >> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently
    >> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the
    >> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if
    >> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which
    >> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was
    >> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it
    >> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and
    >> after that the hijacking thing was gone.
    >> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?
    >> Are these likely to conflict with each other?
    >> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this
    >> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.
    >> Any thoughts appreciated.
    >> Thanks

    >
    >
    > I use the following:
    >
    > Spybot Search & Destroy
    > ThreatFire
    > Super Anti-Spyware
    > Glary Utilities
    > Malwarebytes
    >
    > All the above work with the Avast AV and Windows Defender.
    >
    > You would think that my system must be super secure. Once in a while my
    > system will download a new spyware (from a website) which all the above
    > scanners (with all updates being always current) are still not aware
    > about the new strain of spyware. That is when I do complete restore
    > from the backup. It is happening a little bit more frequently than I
    > would like. So far this year I had to rebuild the laptop 3 times. In a
    > nutshell, use a good set of anti spyware programs but also maintain a
    > good backup of your entire computer.
    >
    > HTH. Good luck.
    >
    > NJ


    What are you using as a firewall?? Sounds like it's not doing it's job....

    --

    Regards,
    Hank Arnold
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Server - Directory Services

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