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Thread: HELP - Windows 8 File Permission Problems

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    RLMARIO001 is offline New Member
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    Default HELP - Windows 8 File Permission Problems

    Hi Team,

    I have a strange Folder/File security problem with a new Windows 8 Pro machine and I spent 3+ hours on the phone with Microsoft today and they don't have a 'fix' but have heard of it a "couple of times" they said.

    I suspect though, it may be a bigger problem than they think since most Users out there these day just run their PCs and may never get into the File System or deal with Attributes and Security.

    System Specs: Dell Alienware 18X, Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit, i7 proc, 32GB Memory, 1 TB RAID 1 (dual 1TB drives mirrored) 60GB Cache.

    Problem: All Folders (Directories) I've created, or that a Program I've installed created since the machine was new a few weeks ago get an Error when you go to 'Properties' and click on 'Security' you get this error:

    "Windows Security"

    The permissions on FolderName are incorrectly ordered, which may cause some entries to be ineffective. Press OK to continue and sort the permissions correctly, or Cancel to reset the permissions.

    Clicking 'OK' to continue, shows that there are NO permissions set for any listed user!? If you click "OK" to continue and "reorder the permissions" you can then go in and set the permissions. I did this process manually last night on a small folder to get AlienRespawn (Dell Datasave) to finally successfully backup a folder (But, I'm not completely convinced the issues are related).

    While on the phone with Microsoft today, we noticed that we could 'right click' on the highest level folder, select 'properties' and 'Take Ownership' and it would run through all the files and sub-directories and set the Permissions--- apparently correctly!??

    NOTE: The problem DOES NOT OCCUR on any external USB drive, I tested three 2TB Western Digitals and a 1.5TB Seagate (all NTFS).

    The Microsoft Tech said they'd heard this just a couple of times with Windows 8 and was going to escalate it up the line.

    In the meantime, the only work-around we agreed on was to Manually Take Ownership of all the Folders or Reorganize and Manually set permissions on anything special.

    ALSO: This problem Does Not affect any Windows 'System' Folders; ex.; Windows, Program Files, Program Data, etc..

    It also acts the same signed in to two different User/Admin accounts.

    Web and Knowledge Base searches hit on the Same Problem, but listed under XP/Vista and an older server if I remember right and said there was a 'hot fix' back then.

    Anybody have any Ideas??? I'm headed in the direction now of trying to find where Win-8 sets it's default permissions for User/Admin accounts. But, even that wouldn't explain why USB drives are fine and it's only C:\.

    Thanks Everyone,


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    HappyAndyK is offline Site Administrator
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    It looks like the subfolders/folders are not inheriting the permissions of the parent folders.

    Do any of these links help?

    Troubleshoot File and Folder Permission Issues in Windows 7 | 8

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