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View Poll Results: Do you use a 3rd party stand-alone Firewall on your Windows ?

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  • No, I use in-built Vista/7 Firewall

    29 34.12%
  • Comodo

    9 10.59%
  • ZoneAlarm

    7 8.24%
  • Online Armor

    5 5.88%
  • Outpost

    7 8.24%
  • Jetico

    0 0%
  • PCTools Firewall

    4 4.71%
  • Rising Firewall

    0 0%
  • Other

    6 7.06%
  • My Security Suite has an in-built firewall

    18 21.18%
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Thread: Do you use a 3rd party stand-alone Firewall on your Windows?

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    Roberto:



    Out of curiosity, could you go to the following website, test Norton, and post the results? KIS 2009 Internet Security passes all these test 100%

    And could someone with ESET do ther same thing?

    https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto View Post
    I use norton's 2009 internet security firewall, symantec being a company which is specialised in security I think it should be better than the default windows vista firewall. I haven't used norton for a long time but it has given me no problems so far, although I do find norton firewall annoying because it still hasn't warned me when it has blocked an action or a program's action. But anyway if you really want to protect yourself against attacks put internet explorer in the highest security level, block all cookies and don't press on any links on sites or spam etc. Or simply don't access the internet xD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyAndyK View Post
    ^ Where is the exact link where you can carry out the testa on grc.com ?
    Here is the link to Steve Gibson's "Shields Up". An excellent program for testing your firewall and internet vulnerabilities.

    https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

    Sorry, just saw I was beaten to the punch.

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    Thanks both

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    Well i was Zone alarm user with avast home and Spyware doctor and zone alarm had compatibility issues when u had al these 3 sws running and the system would just freeze and once i removed zone alarm everythg is fine now on NOd32 4.0 and spyware doctor so these 3 cant be installed together...

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    hi !

    i installed ESET earlier today on W7, and did some tests with:

    1. Gibsons "Security test" & "Leaktest" https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

    2. Comodo´s "firewall package test" (CLT) http://download.comodo.com/securitytests/All_tests.zip

    3. Audit My PC Firewall Test - Free Internet Security Testing

    after seing the results, i *UNINSTALLED* ESET Smart Security 4, and installed ESET Antivirus instead (WITHOUT firewall)...

    i´m using Outpost firewall now, it´s almost "waterproof", just 2 leaks left to fix.

    i tried different firewall settings with ESET: auto, interactive, policy.
    the best result was 4 leaks, with the other 2 settings it was 5 leaks.

    i tested first with my "admin account", there were (as i expected) a few more leaks,
    then i tested with my normal "user account" (UAC at max.)

    i did the same tests also with Comodo´s firewall and with W7´s firewall, both had lots of leaks....

    and Gibsons "Leaktest" bypasses W7´s firewall !

    but it cannot bypass Outpost.

    i KNOW that Outbound rules can be set for W7´s firewall, but without rules...

    that was one VERY good reason for me to try Outpost.

    W7´s firewall did NOT perform well with Comodos "Leaktests" !

    240 points out of 340, lots of leaks...

    outpost got 320 points of 340.

    i haven´t tested those firewalls with Vista, but i suspect the results would be the same.

    run these tests yourself with your firewalls and look at the results.

    my tip is to test Outpost firewall, 2 good reasons:

    1. it works well, totally stealth, just 2 leaks. (with CLT)
    2. it´s FREE.
    Last edited by hackerman1; 18th May 2009 at 21:36.

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    I am very surprised to here you say that about ESET. Are you certian you had the ESET Firewall running after installation and not the Vista Firewall?

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    hi !

    YES !

    ESET ´s firewall WAS running, and W7´s firewall was NOT, i turned it off myself !

    with ESET the normal blue (green ?) icon changes to red when you turn off the firewall.

    read my post again:
    ..."i tried different firewall settings with ESET: auto, interactive, policy...."

    i also believed that the famous AV-brands: ESET, Norton, Kaspersky etc. had good firewalls, but after seing the results from Matousec i wanted to do my own tests, as i (of course) want good security.

    Results and comments - www.matousec.com

    do you see Outpost (almost) at the top of the list, (3rd place) ?

    today i also remembered what one of the network administrators told me last summer, a guy i believe knows what he talks about, he is a systems architect and is also responsible for the computer security at my university: get a FREE firewall instead of using the ones from the "big" names, because they are not good !

    but today i´m not sure about exactly what he said, it might have been Comodo or Zonealarm...

    anyway, take a look at matousec and then do your own tests.
    Last edited by hackerman1; 19th May 2009 at 02:13.

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    I have tried a LOT of firewalls for vista, but with 2gb of ram, and running almost barebone for services only needed I am still getting crappy cpu. So, instead of using 3rd party I use Vista with advanced security and Vista firewall control. I've tested my ports on a few websites and so far passed all including leak tests.

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    I have with Windows Firewall on Windows Vista and Windows 7 as well.

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    hi !

    With Outpost i had NO leaks running Vista & using a normal user account,
    i had only 2 "leaks" running W7 & using a normal user account, but i have fixed them now.

    "Comodos free firewall" now works with W7, so i´m using it now, instead of Outpost.
    Last edited by hackerman1; 5th July 2009 at 23:53. Reason: cleaned up some typing + copy & paste errors, i seems i was a bit tired when i posted.

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