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  1. #11
    Ken Blake, MVP Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:21:25 +0100, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

    > Use a third party application, eg Partition Magic to combine what was D to
    > C, thereby removing the D partition.



    If he simply does that, all his programs, which are installed on D:
    will fail to work, because they will be on C: and Windows expects to
    find them on D:

    He would also have to either try one of the programs that search out
    and try to change all those many references from D: to C:, or else
    uninstall, then reinstall the programs.

    My experience with programs that look for and change the references
    has been less than satisfactory, and I don't recommend them. The best
    way to do this is to uninstall and reinstall.

    His easiest course of action at this point, by far, would be to use a
    third-party program to make D: smaller and C: bigger. However, before
    using such a program and taking such a big step--either your way or
    mine--he should first be sure he has a current backup of anything he
    can't afford to lose. Although there's no reason to expect a problem,
    things *can* go wrong.



    By the way, Pradeep should note that programs should normally be
    installed on the same partition as \Windows. Although some people
    install them on a different partition because they think that they are
    protected there, and won't be lost if Windows ever has to be
    reinstalled, this is *not* correct. If Windows is reinstalled, all the
    many references to the program within it are lost. The programs (all
    except for an occasional small one) have to be reinstalled too.

    You can read my advice on partitioning in the article "Understanding
    Disk Partitioning" at
    http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=326


    > Your drive is too small to bother about partitioning
    >
    > "Pradeep" <Pradeep@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:9F688EA7-7CF4-4A37-BFEA-33A6E219CB6D@microsoft.com...
    > > Iam sorry Nonny,
    > >
    > > I wanted to say that Drive D has 60 GB free space.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > > Pradeep
    > >

    >


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  2. #12
    SCSIraidGURU Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space


    Disable system restore. Vista needs 40GB + RAM size. For me it was
    56GB, 40GB + 16GB for Paging.


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    Supermicro X7DWA-N server board
    pair of Intel E5430 quad core 2.66 GHz Xeons
    16GB DDR667
    SAS RAID
    eVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB video card

  3. #13
    MilesAhead Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space


    How much Ram do you have installed? I have 2 GB Ram and don't run a
    swap file. The only time I got a "low memory" error msg was because I
    kept trying to play a bad video file and without realizing it I had 1/2
    dozen copies of VLC Media Player running.

    If you must use swap, move it to D:


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  4. #14
    Ken Blake, MVP Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:55:12 -0500, MilesAhead
    <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:

    >
    > How much Ram do you have installed? I have 2 GB Ram and don't run a
    > swap file.



    It's called the "page" file in Windows XP. Turning it off is a very
    bad thing to do, regardless of how much RAM you have. That's for two
    reasons:

    1. If you don't have a page file, you can't use all the RAM you have.
    That's because Windows preallocates virtual memory in anticipation of
    a possible need for it, even though that allocated virtual memory may
    never be used. Without a page file, that allocation has to be made in
    real memory, thus tying up that memory and preventing it from being
    used for any purpose.

    2. There is never a benefit in not having a page file. If it isn't
    needed, it won't be used. Don't confuse allocated memory with used
    memory.



    > The only time I got a "low memory" error msg was because I
    > kept trying to play a bad video file and without realizing it I had 1/2
    > dozen copies of VLC Media Player running.
    >
    > If you must use swap, move it to D:




    Assuming that D: is a second partition, that's also bad advice.
    Putting the Page File on a second partition is not a good idea, and
    can hurt your performance. What it does is move the page file to a
    location on the hard drive distant from the other frequently-used data
    on the drive. The result is that every time Windows needs to use the
    page file, the time to get to it and back from it is increased.

    Putting the page file on a second *physical* drive is a good idea,
    since it decreases head movement, but not to a second partition on a
    single drive. A good rule of thumb is that the page file should be on
    the most-used partition of the least-used physical drive. For almost
    everyone with a single drive, that's C:.


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  5. #15
    MilesAhead Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space


    A swap file by any other name is virtual memory. To run out of disc
    space to support a swap file that isn't needed is insane.

    If you have enough ram you don't need swap. Not everyone runs MS
    Office apps.


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    MilesAhead

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  6. #16
    SCSIraidGURU Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space


    I would put 128MB minimum and maximum paging file on C:. Move the rest
    to D: 2GB minimum and maximum on D: . A small paging file on C: helps
    with boot up.


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    SCSIraidGURU

    Michael A. McKenney
    'www.SCSIraidGURU.com' (http://www.SCSIraidGURU.com)

    Supermicro X7DWA-N server board
    pair of Intel E5430 quad core 2.66 GHz Xeons
    16GB DDR667
    SAS RAID
    eVGA 8800 GTS 640 MB video card

  7. #17
    Stewart Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space

    I have a similar problem, need to expand my C: while shrinking the D: on my
    new Vista (home edition) laptop.
    Did anyone try the software Nonny suggested on a Vista box?
    Any feedback will be appreciated.


    "Nonny" wrote:

    >
    > http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/dow...generation.htm
    >



  8. #18
    Pradeep Guest

    Default Re: C drive running out of space

    Hello All,

    Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I have tried implementing different
    suggestions from everyone in this email thread but with little success. Steps
    which free up resources like the files used for revoking the Windows Vista
    SP1 did free up space but the same used to get filled in a couple of days or
    a week. To be frank i was not interested in using a third party tool either
    (i have seen people facing wierd problems after using 3rd party tools).

    Finally, i deleted all the partitions reformmatted the drive and now there
    is only one partition which is C. What is really strange is, i dont see any
    of the problems i had because of which "windows installer used to start when
    explorer is opened" and many such annoyances. I am really happy for having
    formatted the drives and followed the suggestions of Ken Blake, MVP where in
    i installed all the programs on the drive where windows folder exists (C).

    With this exercise, i understand that the manufacturer's (of the notebook, i
    use a notebook) drivers cause a lot of problems which we presume to be
    because of the OS or applications like office etc.

    I thank everyone in this chain a lot for their contributions.

    Thanks & Regards,

    Pradeep

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