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  1. #11
    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files


    "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:1505D92C-8522-4FD5-A9C4-377790D15657@microsoft.com...
    > The reason I know the file associations are correct is if I try to stream
    > the
    > audio file, it does start WMP 11 with an error message saying it's unable
    > to
    > play the file. If the association wasn't correct I assume WMP would not
    > be
    > launched a all.


    Nope: it can just get launched differently. There's multiple layers of
    associations, if one fails you simply step down a layer. When you're
    interacting with a web server, sometimes they can try to do little
    server-side tricks that will interfere with that failover.

    > Yes, if I save the .asx file to disk and then open it with
    > WMP 11, it does play.


    OK, and so for you when you click "Web Help" on that Error dialog, what
    *URL* does it take you to?



    Does it happen with non-CDConnection web sites? Does a sample WMV such as
    one of http://zachd.com/mvc2/fulllist.html?360 work for you? Does a sample
    ASF such as one of http://zachd.com/mvc2/fulllist.html?asf work for you? (I
    realize that content is all dumb, but -- I know the URL off the top of my
    head, so that's a quick test URL.)

    -Z
    --
    Speaking for myself only.
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


  2. #12
    Greg Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    Let me try again: If I go to internet options/programs, then click Set
    Programs under internet program,s it brings up a dialog. I click associate a
    file type or... and scroll down to .asx. Right now it';s set to winamp but
    if I set it back to WMP, the fle type doesn't stream. Are you saying this is
    NOT the place to set the file associations? And yes, it's not just
    cdconnection, and, in any case, cd connection was working up until recently.

    I've also used the set your default program option on the same dialog.

    None of your files stream, the only choices I get are open, save, cancel.
    As far as I can tell, the only difference between open and save is where it
    places the file, but regardless it is downloaded before playing.

    Some change I have made since pursuing this problem now causes the streams
    on cdconnection to fail without an error message. I click, it appears to do
    a quick download but nothing comes up so I can no longer tell you where it
    goes when I click Web Help. I can tell you it suggested codec, compression
    or corrupted file.

    Wouldn't it be nice if MS allowed me to unistall WMP 11 so I could reinstall
    it thereby reestablishing the associations and/or repairing whatever the
    problem is?

    Greg

    "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

    >
    > "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:1505D92C-8522-4FD5-A9C4-377790D15657@microsoft.com...
    > > The reason I know the file associations are correct is if I try to stream
    > > the
    > > audio file, it does start WMP 11 with an error message saying it's unable
    > > to
    > > play the file. If the association wasn't correct I assume WMP would not
    > > be
    > > launched a all.

    >
    > Nope: it can just get launched differently. There's multiple layers of
    > associations, if one fails you simply step down a layer. When you're
    > interacting with a web server, sometimes they can try to do little
    > server-side tricks that will interfere with that failover.
    >
    > > Yes, if I save the .asx file to disk and then open it with
    > > WMP 11, it does play.

    >
    > OK, and so for you when you click "Web Help" on that Error dialog, what
    > *URL* does it take you to?
    >
    > Does it happen with non-CDConnection web sites? Does a sample WMV such as
    > one of http://zachd.com/mvc2/fulllist.html?360 work for you? Does a sample
    > ASF such as one of http://zachd.com/mvc2/fulllist.html?asf work for you? (I
    > realize that content is all dumb, but -- I know the URL off the top of my
    > head, so that's a quick test URL.)
    >
    > -Z
    > --
    > Speaking for myself only.
    > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >
    >


  3. #13
    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files


    "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:955FC005-C5CF-4308-ACEA-6EE4EFABEE2B@microsoft.com...
    > Let me try again: If I go to internet options/programs, then click Set
    > Programs under internet program,s it brings up a dialog. I click
    > associate a
    > file type or... and scroll down to .asx. Right now it';s set to winamp
    > but
    > if I set it back to WMP, the fle type doesn't stream. Are you saying this
    > is
    > NOT the place to set the file associations? And yes, it's not just
    > cdconnection, and, in any case, cd connection was working up until
    > recently.


    > I've also used the set your default program option on the same dialog.


    'Set your default programs' does per-user file associations, which is why I
    explicitly referenced "Set Program Access and Defaults", which also allows
    the player a minor chance to correct damage other utilities/players can do
    to its associations. They're related but different. =)

    > None of your files stream, the only choices I get are open, save, cancel.
    > As far as I can tell, the only difference between open and save is where
    > it
    > places the file, but regardless it is downloaded before playing.


    Interesting: is that with WMP or WinAMP set as default? This is obviously
    incorrect behavior and a likely sign that the file association is indeed set
    wrong. I had kind of been moving away from that as a suspected cause, but
    your system behaving this way does indicate that it is currently set
    incorrectly.

    > Some change I have made since pursuing this problem now causes the streams
    > on cdconnection to fail without an error message. I click, it appears to
    > do
    > a quick download but nothing comes up so I can no longer tell you where it
    > goes when I click Web Help. I can tell you it suggested codec,
    > compression
    > or corrupted file.


    > Wouldn't it be nice if MS allowed me to unistall WMP 11 so I could
    > reinstall
    > it thereby reestablishing the associations and/or repairing whatever the
    > problem is?


    Yes, it's too bad that MS doesn't offer this functionality that would *not*
    have reestablished the associations and/or likely repaired whatever the
    problem is. ;-)

    The basic BOMs (install designs) are on your system and can be inspected.
    You'll note that the player install design is to be friendly to other
    players that take associations, which thus means that associations are not
    reestablished.* It also operates on a global (per-machine) level only,
    really, so if you are experiencing user-level corruption (verifiable via
    trying this on a second account on the system), it would be unlikely to
    repair the problem in question. Does this work for a new user account on
    your system? (Note that system-wide association corruption/mis-setting
    would also affect a second user, so this isn't definitive, just potentially
    interesting.)

    * These registrations are done in config sections designed not to overwrite
    settings done by other players. The (system) component installer has no
    mechanism for determining if the association chain is valid, and since that
    could change as components (shell, IE) get updated, there would be no
    persistent way to determine that. Windows Media Player's SPAD
    implementation is your only chance to give the player the reins to reset
    things back to "normal" if they were corrupt. SYDP operates via the shell
    parsing the application's Capabilities information, which does not allow the
    player to reset any system-wide corruption. Capabilities points to
    something along the lines of WMP11.AssocFile.ASF - if Player XYZ decides to
    corrupt WMP11.AssocFile.ASF, SYDP doesn't and can't correct for that (it
    doesn't know). SPAD *can* correct for that (with the additional notation
    that it's always possible to do righteously horrible things to file
    associations, so it's always best to use your own named hive. You would
    think that with a name like "WMP11.something" other apps would not stomp on
    those subkeys, but you'd be surprised. The WMP code will try to repair
    damage done to the "WMP11.something" hives if I recall correctly, but it
    isn't always possible.)



    Let's get back to core interesting questions as opposed to tangenting over
    to underlying technology which I find fascinating but you likely find a
    waste of your time:
    * Did you try SPAD?
    * Does it work for a second account?
    * What are the values and subkeys under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.asx and under
    HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\WMP11.AssocFile.ASX ?

    -Zach
    --
    Speaking for myself only.
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



  4. #14
    Greg Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    I had previously checked the Set Program Access and Defaults and it was set
    to use WMP as my player. On a hunch, I chose the custom radio button, and
    forced in WMP again. Voila! It now streams .asx files. So apparently,
    seeing isn't necessarily believing.

    Thank you very much!

    Greg

    "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

    >
    > "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:955FC005-C5CF-4308-ACEA-6EE4EFABEE2B@microsoft.com...
    > > Let me try again: If I go to internet options/programs, then click Set
    > > Programs under internet program,s it brings up a dialog. I click
    > > associate a
    > > file type or... and scroll down to .asx. Right now it';s set to winamp
    > > but
    > > if I set it back to WMP, the fle type doesn't stream. Are you saying this
    > > is
    > > NOT the place to set the file associations? And yes, it's not just
    > > cdconnection, and, in any case, cd connection was working up until
    > > recently.

    >
    > > I've also used the set your default program option on the same dialog.

    >
    > 'Set your default programs' does per-user file associations, which is why I
    > explicitly referenced "Set Program Access and Defaults", which also allows
    > the player a minor chance to correct damage other utilities/players can do
    > to its associations. They're related but different. =)
    >
    > > None of your files stream, the only choices I get are open, save, cancel.
    > > As far as I can tell, the only difference between open and save is where
    > > it
    > > places the file, but regardless it is downloaded before playing.

    >
    > Interesting: is that with WMP or WinAMP set as default? This is obviously
    > incorrect behavior and a likely sign that the file association is indeed set
    > wrong. I had kind of been moving away from that as a suspected cause, but
    > your system behaving this way does indicate that it is currently set
    > incorrectly.
    >
    > > Some change I have made since pursuing this problem now causes the streams
    > > on cdconnection to fail without an error message. I click, it appears to
    > > do
    > > a quick download but nothing comes up so I can no longer tell you where it
    > > goes when I click Web Help. I can tell you it suggested codec,
    > > compression
    > > or corrupted file.

    >
    > > Wouldn't it be nice if MS allowed me to unistall WMP 11 so I could
    > > reinstall
    > > it thereby reestablishing the associations and/or repairing whatever the
    > > problem is?

    >
    > Yes, it's too bad that MS doesn't offer this functionality that would *not*
    > have reestablished the associations and/or likely repaired whatever the
    > problem is. ;-)
    >
    > The basic BOMs (install designs) are on your system and can be inspected.
    > You'll note that the player install design is to be friendly to other
    > players that take associations, which thus means that associations are not
    > reestablished.* It also operates on a global (per-machine) level only,
    > really, so if you are experiencing user-level corruption (verifiable via
    > trying this on a second account on the system), it would be unlikely to
    > repair the problem in question. Does this work for a new user account on
    > your system? (Note that system-wide association corruption/mis-setting
    > would also affect a second user, so this isn't definitive, just potentially
    > interesting.)
    >
    > * These registrations are done in config sections designed not to overwrite
    > settings done by other players. The (system) component installer has no
    > mechanism for determining if the association chain is valid, and since that
    > could change as components (shell, IE) get updated, there would be no
    > persistent way to determine that. Windows Media Player's SPAD
    > implementation is your only chance to give the player the reins to reset
    > things back to "normal" if they were corrupt. SYDP operates via the shell
    > parsing the application's Capabilities information, which does not allow the
    > player to reset any system-wide corruption. Capabilities points to
    > something along the lines of WMP11.AssocFile.ASF - if Player XYZ decides to
    > corrupt WMP11.AssocFile.ASF, SYDP doesn't and can't correct for that (it
    > doesn't know). SPAD *can* correct for that (with the additional notation
    > that it's always possible to do righteously horrible things to file
    > associations, so it's always best to use your own named hive. You would
    > think that with a name like "WMP11.something" other apps would not stomp on
    > those subkeys, but you'd be surprised. The WMP code will try to repair
    > damage done to the "WMP11.something" hives if I recall correctly, but it
    > isn't always possible.)
    >
    >
    >
    > Let's get back to core interesting questions as opposed to tangenting over
    > to underlying technology which I find fascinating but you likely find a
    > waste of your time:
    > * Did you try SPAD?
    > * Does it work for a second account?
    > * What are the values and subkeys under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.asx and under
    > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\WMP11.AssocFile.ASX ?
    >
    > -Zach
    > --
    > Speaking for myself only.
    > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    >
    >
    >


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    In order to play .asx files anywhere like in windows phones, windows media player, ipod, ipad, itunes, mp3 or mp4 player, android, samsung galaxy, a recommend solution is to convert .asx to other video or audio formats on Mac or Windows

    Just google search Step by Step Guide on How to Convert ASX toASX to MP3, WMA, AVI, MP4, WAV

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