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  1. #1
    Greg Guest

    Default WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    I get an error saying it's unable to play the files, and the detailed message
    suggests they are corrupted. They are not corrupted, I changed IE to use
    Winamp and they play just fine from the same sites. Also if I save the files
    to my hard drive, they iopen fine in WMP11. It only fusses when I try to
    stream them.

    The only thing that changed recently is I tried and then removed (via
    restore) IE8 as it was mangling the rendering of many pages.



    Yes I have a workaround, but as I experienced with XP and WMP9/10, it starts
    with one thing not working and gets progressively worse.

    As MS has decided to not allow me to uninstall and reinstall WMP11 under
    Vista, I have to do some repair "as is".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    I get an error saying it's unable to play the files, and the detailed message
    suggests they are corrupted. They are not corrupted, I changed IE to use
    Winamp and they play just fine from the same sites. Also if I save the files
    to my hard drive, they iopen fine in WMP11. It only fusses when I try to
    stream them.

    The only thing that changed recently is I tried and then removed (via
    restore) IE8 as it was mangling the rendering of many pages.

    Yes I have a workaround, but as I experienced with XP and WMP9/10, it starts
    with one thing not working and gets progressively worse.

    As MS has decided to not allow me to uninstall and reinstall WMP11 under
    Vista, I have to do some repair "as is".
    Check WMP's Options
    In menu........Tools >> Options
    Navigate to Network tab
    Now select the check boxes as per used protocols and enable Allow Player to receive multicast streams

  3. #3
    Greg Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    Unfortunately, that option is already checked as are all the protocols.

    Greg

    "Ramesh Kumar MVP" wrote:

    >
    > Greg;99905 Wrote:
    > > I get an error saying it's unable to play the files, and the detailed
    > > message
    > > suggests they are corrupted. They are not corrupted, I changed IE to
    > > use
    > > Winamp and they play just fine from the same sites. Also if I save the
    > > files
    > > to my hard drive, they iopen fine in WMP11. It only fusses when I try
    > > to
    > > stream them.
    > >
    > > The only thing that changed recently is I tried and then removed (via
    > > restore) IE8 as it was mangling the rendering of many pages.
    > >
    > > Yes I have a workaround, but as I experienced with XP and WMP9/10, it
    > > starts
    > > with one thing not working and gets progressively worse.
    > >
    > > As MS has decided to not allow me to uninstall and reinstall WMP11
    > > under
    > > Vista, I have to do some repair "as is".

    >
    > Check WMP's Options
    > In menu........*Tools >> Options*
    > Navigate to *Network *tab
    > Now select the check boxes as per used protocols and enable *Allow
    > Player to receive multicast streams*
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ramesh Kumar MVP
    >
    > RAMESH KUMAR
    > Microsoft MVP: 'My MVP Profile'
    > (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Ramesh.Kumar)
    > My Blog: 'It's My Windows' (http://itsmywindows.com)
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > Ramesh Kumar MVP's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=17
    > View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22274
    >
    >


  4. #4
    Greg Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    More info: The same streams will play directly in Google Chrome using WMP
    11. Obviosuly the problem is not with WMP but with IE so perhaps my
    suspicion about IE8 corrupting something is correct?

    "Greg" wrote:

    > Unfortunately, that option is already checked as are all the protocols.
    >
    > Greg
    >
    > "Ramesh Kumar MVP" wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > Greg;99905 Wrote:
    > > > I get an error saying it's unable to play the files, and the detailed
    > > > message
    > > > suggests they are corrupted. They are not corrupted, I changed IE to
    > > > use
    > > > Winamp and they play just fine from the same sites. Also if I save the
    > > > files
    > > > to my hard drive, they iopen fine in WMP11. It only fusses when I try
    > > > to
    > > > stream them.
    > > >
    > > > The only thing that changed recently is I tried and then removed (via
    > > > restore) IE8 as it was mangling the rendering of many pages.
    > > >
    > > > Yes I have a workaround, but as I experienced with XP and WMP9/10, it
    > > > starts
    > > > with one thing not working and gets progressively worse.
    > > >
    > > > As MS has decided to not allow me to uninstall and reinstall WMP11
    > > > under
    > > > Vista, I have to do some repair "as is".

    > >
    > > Check WMP's Options
    > > In menu........*Tools >> Options*
    > > Navigate to *Network *tab
    > > Now select the check boxes as per used protocols and enable *Allow
    > > Player to receive multicast streams*
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ramesh Kumar MVP
    > >
    > > RAMESH KUMAR
    > > Microsoft MVP: 'My MVP Profile'
    > > (https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Ramesh.Kumar)
    > > My Blog: 'It's My Windows' (http://itsmywindows.com)
    > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > Ramesh Kumar MVP's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=17
    > > View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22274
    > >
    > >


  5. #5
    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files


    This sounds like your file associations are wonky.

    What's a sample URL that fails?
    What third party media players are installed?

    If you reset the file associations under Vista's Default Programs:Set
    Program Access and Defaults control panel, does that fix this up?

    --
    Speaking for myself only.
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --
    "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ACEEFD7D-CC3A-4EB6-88DE-75D8A3133966@microsoft.com...
    >I get an error saying it's unable to play the files, and the detailed
    >message
    > suggests they are corrupted. They are not corrupted, I changed IE to use
    > Winamp and they play just fine from the same sites. Also if I save the
    > files
    > to my hard drive, they iopen fine in WMP11. It only fusses when I try to
    > stream them.
    >
    > The only thing that changed recently is I tried and then removed (via
    > restore) IE8 as it was mangling the rendering of many pages.
    >
    > Yes I have a workaround, but as I experienced with XP and WMP9/10, it
    > starts
    > with one thing not working and gets progressively worse.
    >
    > As MS has decided to not allow me to uninstall and reinstall WMP11 under
    > Vista, I have to do some repair "as is".




  6. #6
    Greg Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    The file associations are correct. If I try to stream something at
    cdconnection.com, WMP 11 starts and says it is unable to play the file. If I
    save the link as a file and open it with WMP 11 it works fine. If I access
    the same site with Google Chrome, it plays in WMP 11. I looked at the
    contents of the .asx file and it is syntactically correct. If I enter the
    URL into WMP 11 it also plays fine.

    I also tried resetting the default program setting and that had no effect on
    the problem.

    I have the latest Winamp Pro and, for now, have associated .asx and .asf
    files with it so I can stream from IE 7.

    BTW, I tried the repair you suggesed to someone else, I think it was scf
    /scannow and afterwards my system would boot to the desktop and the CPU was
    so tied up doing something I couldn't do anything at all. From the 21 mb log
    file, it looks like it replaced two damaged files neither of which appears to
    be related to WMP. Repeated reboots didn't fix the problem so I booted to
    safe mode and rolled back to the previous day.

    Greg
    "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

    >
    > This sounds like your file associations are wonky.
    >
    > What's a sample URL that fails?
    > What third party media players are installed?
    >
    > If you reset the file associations under Vista's Default Programs:Set
    > Program Access and Defaults control panel, does that fix this up?
    >
    > --
    > Speaking for myself only.
    > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > --



  7. #7
    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files


    What's a sample URL that fails?

    WinAMP and any other player that I'm aware of download the media file
    differently than the player does. You cannot emulate what the player does
    in any other fashion. You cannot emulate the file association methodology
    used precisely here in any other way. It is indeed possible to "speed bump"
    the association via incorrect third party associations so that an internal
    file association check fails but the file association then correctly works
    on a secondary path which may or may not result in a minor aberration which
    can affect playback. But if you went through SPAD you ~should~ have
    corrected that path if it was broken.

    --
    Speaking for myself only.
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --
    "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B84C8BCF-393C-4F14-9BBA-6BAADEF93060@microsoft.com...
    > The file associations are correct. If I try to stream something at
    > cdconnection.com, WMP 11 starts and says it is unable to play the file.
    > If I
    > save the link as a file and open it with WMP 11 it works fine. If I
    > access
    > the same site with Google Chrome, it plays in WMP 11. I looked at the
    > contents of the .asx file and it is syntactically correct. If I enter the
    > URL into WMP 11 it also plays fine.
    >
    > I also tried resetting the default program setting and that had no effect
    > on
    > the problem.
    >
    > I have the latest Winamp Pro and, for now, have associated .asx and .asf
    > files with it so I can stream from IE 7.
    >
    > BTW, I tried the repair you suggesed to someone else, I think it was scf
    > /scannow and afterwards my system would boot to the desktop and the CPU
    > was
    > so tied up doing something I couldn't do anything at all. From the 21 mb
    > log
    > file, it looks like it replaced two damaged files neither of which appears
    > to
    > be related to WMP. Repeated reboots didn't fix the problem so I booted to
    > safe mode and rolled back to the previous day.
    >
    > Greg
    > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> This sounds like your file associations are wonky.
    >>
    >> What's a sample URL that fails?
    >> What third party media players are installed?
    >>
    >> If you reset the file associations under Vista's Default Programs:Set
    >> Program Access and Defaults control panel, does that fix this up?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Speaking for myself only.
    >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights.
    >> --

    >




  8. #8
    Greg Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    As I already stated above, www.cdconnection.com. I cannot stream any of the
    sample audio files.

    Other than your querty about url, the rest of your answer/comment is
    complete gibberish and I'm not impressed. If you are here to help (which I
    appreciate) then help, don't write something that sounds like a politician on
    the Sunday morning talk shows.

    Greg

    "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

    >
    > What's a sample URL that fails?
    >
    > WinAMP and any other player that I'm aware of download the media file
    > differently than the player does. You cannot emulate what the player does
    > in any other fashion. You cannot emulate the file association methodology
    > used precisely here in any other way. It is indeed possible to "speed bump"
    > the association via incorrect third party associations so that an internal
    > file association check fails but the file association then correctly works
    > on a secondary path which may or may not result in a minor aberration which
    > can affect playback. But if you went through SPAD you ~should~ have
    > corrected that path if it was broken.
    >
    > --
    > Speaking for myself only.
    > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > --
    > "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:B84C8BCF-393C-4F14-9BBA-6BAADEF93060@microsoft.com...
    > > The file associations are correct. If I try to stream something at
    > > cdconnection.com, WMP 11 starts and says it is unable to play the file.
    > > If I
    > > save the link as a file and open it with WMP 11 it works fine. If I
    > > access
    > > the same site with Google Chrome, it plays in WMP 11. I looked at the
    > > contents of the .asx file and it is syntactically correct. If I enter the
    > > URL into WMP 11 it also plays fine.
    > >
    > > I also tried resetting the default program setting and that had no effect
    > > on
    > > the problem.
    > >
    > > I have the latest Winamp Pro and, for now, have associated .asx and .asf
    > > files with it so I can stream from IE 7.
    > >
    > > BTW, I tried the repair you suggesed to someone else, I think it was scf
    > > /scannow and afterwards my system would boot to the desktop and the CPU
    > > was
    > > so tied up doing something I couldn't do anything at all. From the 21 mb
    > > log
    > > file, it looks like it replaced two damaged files neither of which appears
    > > to
    > > be related to WMP. Repeated reboots didn't fix the problem so I booted to
    > > safe mode and rolled back to the previous day.
    > >
    > > Greg
    > > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> This sounds like your file associations are wonky.
    > >>
    > >> What's a sample URL that fails?
    > >> What third party media players are installed?
    > >>
    > >> If you reset the file associations under Vista's Default Programs:Set
    > >> Program Access and Defaults control panel, does that fix this up?
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Speaking for myself only.
    > >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > >> rights.
    > >> --

    > >

    >
    >
    >


  9. #9
    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files


    Right, but if you told me *exactly* what you were trying to play, that would
    help me *exactly* try what you're trying, this ensuring better accuracy of
    my testing. =)

    If you right-click Save As one of those ASX's to your hard drive and open up
    that ASX in the player directly, does it work then?

    I'm not attempting to be on TV, just attempting to point out important
    technical considerations which you had *potentially* glossed over with this
    comment: "The file associations are correct". It is nearly impossible for
    anyone to verify that without inspecting the registry directly (even if it
    "seems" right, other things can be going on) as the file association methods
    used can be intricate. I'm assuming that's ~not~ the problem going on here,
    but that's hard to definitively say.

    I am here to help and am unfortunately ill-suited to do so as I work writing
    code for areas of my interest and thus ---- at explaining to the lay more
    casual observer that appearances can be deceiving. I apologize. =\

    --
    Speaking for myself only.
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --
    "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B3E3E4B7-493E-47DF-9931-B10FEEA48999@microsoft.com...
    > As I already stated above, www.cdconnection.com. I cannot stream any of
    > the
    > sample audio files.
    >
    > Other than your querty about url, the rest of your answer/comment is
    > complete gibberish and I'm not impressed. If you are here to help (which
    > I
    > appreciate) then help, don't write something that sounds like a politician
    > on
    > the Sunday morning talk shows.
    >
    > Greg
    >
    > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> What's a sample URL that fails?
    >>
    >> WinAMP and any other player that I'm aware of download the media file
    >> differently than the player does. You cannot emulate what the player
    >> does
    >> in any other fashion. You cannot emulate the file association
    >> methodology
    >> used precisely here in any other way. It is indeed possible to "speed
    >> bump"
    >> the association via incorrect third party associations so that an
    >> internal
    >> file association check fails but the file association then correctly
    >> works
    >> on a secondary path which may or may not result in a minor aberration
    >> which
    >> can affect playback. But if you went through SPAD you ~should~ have
    >> corrected that path if it was broken.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Speaking for myself only.
    >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> rights.
    >> --
    >> "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:B84C8BCF-393C-4F14-9BBA-6BAADEF93060@microsoft.com...
    >> > The file associations are correct. If I try to stream something at
    >> > cdconnection.com, WMP 11 starts and says it is unable to play the file.
    >> > If I
    >> > save the link as a file and open it with WMP 11 it works fine. If I
    >> > access
    >> > the same site with Google Chrome, it plays in WMP 11. I looked at the
    >> > contents of the .asx file and it is syntactically correct. If I enter
    >> > the
    >> > URL into WMP 11 it also plays fine.
    >> >
    >> > I also tried resetting the default program setting and that had no
    >> > effect
    >> > on
    >> > the problem.
    >> >
    >> > I have the latest Winamp Pro and, for now, have associated .asx and
    >> > .asf
    >> > files with it so I can stream from IE 7.
    >> >
    >> > BTW, I tried the repair you suggesed to someone else, I think it was
    >> > scf
    >> > /scannow and afterwards my system would boot to the desktop and the CPU
    >> > was
    >> > so tied up doing something I couldn't do anything at all. From the 21
    >> > mb
    >> > log
    >> > file, it looks like it replaced two damaged files neither of which
    >> > appears
    >> > to
    >> > be related to WMP. Repeated reboots didn't fix the problem so I booted
    >> > to
    >> > safe mode and rolled back to the previous day.
    >> >
    >> > Greg
    >> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> This sounds like your file associations are wonky.
    >> >>
    >> >> What's a sample URL that fails?
    >> >> What third party media players are installed?
    >> >>
    >> >> If you reset the file associations under Vista's Default Programs:Set
    >> >> Program Access and Defaults control panel, does that fix this up?
    >> >>
    >> >> --
    >> >> Speaking for myself only.
    >> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    >> >> rights.
    >> >> --
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >>



  10. #10
    Greg Guest

    Default Re: WMP11 no longer streams .asx and .asf files

    The reason I know the file associations are correct is if I try to stream the
    audio file, it does start WMP 11 with an error message saying it's unable to
    play the file. If the association wasn't correct I assume WMP would not be
    launched a all. Yes, if I save the .asx file to disk and then open it with
    WMP 11, it does play.

    Try *any* audio link on cdconnection.com, choose your favorite music and
    then save the target file if you want to examine the .asx file. No matter
    what file I try to stream, the results are the same.

    Here's the contents of one I have saved to disk:

    <ASX Version="3.0"><ENTRY><REF
    HREF="mms://sg5.allmusic.com/027wma_28/s131/s13158/s1315886/s131588602hb6je.wma"/></ENTRY></ASX>

    I am also a software developer who has to provide client support at times.
    I know the difficulties of seeing exactly what the client is seeing and
    appreciate them. I also know giving my clients excess technical information
    on what's going on is probably making their eyes glaze over. I still
    can't make much sense of your previous post. My comments were meant to be
    tongue-in-cheek, I do appreciate your help.

    Greg



    "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:

    >
    > Right, but if you told me *exactly* what you were trying to play, that would
    > help me *exactly* try what you're trying, this ensuring better accuracy of
    > my testing. =)
    >
    > If you right-click Save As one of those ASX's to your hard drive and open up
    > that ASX in the player directly, does it work then?
    >
    > I'm not attempting to be on TV, just attempting to point out important
    > technical considerations which you had *potentially* glossed over with this
    > comment: "The file associations are correct". It is nearly impossible for
    > anyone to verify that without inspecting the registry directly (even if it
    > "seems" right, other things can be going on) as the file association methods
    > used can be intricate. I'm assuming that's ~not~ the problem going on here,
    > but that's hard to definitively say.
    >
    > I am here to help and am unfortunately ill-suited to do so as I work writing
    > code for areas of my interest and thus ---- at explaining to the lay more
    > casual observer that appearances can be deceiving. I apologize. =\
    >
    > --
    > Speaking for myself only.
    > See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > --
    > "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:B3E3E4B7-493E-47DF-9931-B10FEEA48999@microsoft.com...
    > > As I already stated above, www.cdconnection.com. I cannot stream any of
    > > the
    > > sample audio files.
    > >
    > > Other than your querty about url, the rest of your answer/comment is
    > > complete gibberish and I'm not impressed. If you are here to help (which
    > > I
    > > appreciate) then help, don't write something that sounds like a politician
    > > on
    > > the Sunday morning talk shows.
    > >
    > > Greg
    > >
    > > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> What's a sample URL that fails?
    > >>
    > >> WinAMP and any other player that I'm aware of download the media file
    > >> differently than the player does. You cannot emulate what the player
    > >> does
    > >> in any other fashion. You cannot emulate the file association
    > >> methodology
    > >> used precisely here in any other way. It is indeed possible to "speed
    > >> bump"
    > >> the association via incorrect third party associations so that an
    > >> internal
    > >> file association check fails but the file association then correctly
    > >> works
    > >> on a secondary path which may or may not result in a minor aberration
    > >> which
    > >> can affect playback. But if you went through SPAD you ~should~ have
    > >> corrected that path if it was broken.
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Speaking for myself only.
    > >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > >> rights.
    > >> --
    > >> "Greg" <Greg@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:B84C8BCF-393C-4F14-9BBA-6BAADEF93060@microsoft.com...
    > >> > The file associations are correct. If I try to stream something at
    > >> > cdconnection.com, WMP 11 starts and says it is unable to play the file.
    > >> > If I
    > >> > save the link as a file and open it with WMP 11 it works fine. If I
    > >> > access
    > >> > the same site with Google Chrome, it plays in WMP 11. I looked at the
    > >> > contents of the .asx file and it is syntactically correct. If I enter
    > >> > the
    > >> > URL into WMP 11 it also plays fine.
    > >> >
    > >> > I also tried resetting the default program setting and that had no
    > >> > effect
    > >> > on
    > >> > the problem.
    > >> >
    > >> > I have the latest Winamp Pro and, for now, have associated .asx and
    > >> > .asf
    > >> > files with it so I can stream from IE 7.
    > >> >
    > >> > BTW, I tried the repair you suggesed to someone else, I think it was
    > >> > scf
    > >> > /scannow and afterwards my system would boot to the desktop and the CPU
    > >> > was
    > >> > so tied up doing something I couldn't do anything at all. From the 21
    > >> > mb
    > >> > log
    > >> > file, it looks like it replaced two damaged files neither of which
    > >> > appears
    > >> > to
    > >> > be related to WMP. Repeated reboots didn't fix the problem so I booted
    > >> > to
    > >> > safe mode and rolled back to the previous day.
    > >> >
    > >> > Greg
    > >> > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >>
    > >> >> This sounds like your file associations are wonky.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> What's a sample URL that fails?
    > >> >> What third party media players are installed?
    > >> >>
    > >> >> If you reset the file associations under Vista's Default Programs:Set
    > >> >> Program Access and Defaults control panel, does that fix this up?
    > >> >>
    > >> >> --
    > >> >> Speaking for myself only.
    > >> >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    > >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    > >> >> rights.
    > >> >> --
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>

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