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  1. #51
    Frank Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    Alias wrote:

    > Frank wrote:
    >
    >> Alias wrote:
    >>
    >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>
    >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
    >>>>>>> pre-installed
    >>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
    >>>>>>> signs of
    >>>>>>> things to come.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
    >>>>>> more for a Mac..
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Alias
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Usage figures say it all.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
    >>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
    >>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you
    >>> do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then.
    >>> Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the
    >>> slippery slope of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
    >>>

    >> Nice dance...now look at and try and deny the real figures.
    >> urbuttoo is a dismal failure by any accounting.
    >> Just like you are.
    >>

    >
    > Can't address content so you make things up and spew the usual insults.
    > You're a one trick pony, Frank.
    >

    It figures you wouldn't understand.
    You're too stupid.




  2. #52
    Frank Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    +Bob+ wrote:

    > On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:38:02 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
    > <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux even
    >>though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux in LAST place
    >>still, even though it is FREE..
    >>
    >>Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..

    >
    >
    > I'm no fan of LInux on the desktop but there are two factors to
    > consider here. First, Macs have a very serious, very expensive
    > marketing effort behind them. That's the ONLY reason Apple has gone
    > belly up. It's worth noting that Linux has as far as it has with no
    > marketing at all.
    >
    > Secondly, Linux has taken over the web server market - a very
    > important market - despite massive marketing and pressure from MS to
    > stop it. Facts are facts: Linux is a solid product that has acquired
    > its position simply based on an ability to do the job required.
    >
    > MS retains pre-existing market position only based on sheer size and
    > deep pockets: if a smaller company had come out with Vista (without
    > the ability to force vendors to sell its latest OS), they would be
    > filing for bankruptcy.
    >
    > Vista is a flop and reflects MS's inability to produce quality
    > software, to listen to its real users, or to simply act in a
    > reasonable manner towards its customers.
    >
    >
    >
    >

    Bullshit bob at it once again!

  3. #53
    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    "+Bob+" <uctraing@ultranet.com> wrote in message
    news:madpe45lcavvf62lq8rcffecrbststvoo3@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:38:02 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
    > <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux even
    >>though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux in LAST
    >>place
    >>still, even though it is FREE..
    >>
    >>Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..

    >
    > I'm no fan of LInux on the desktop but there are two factors to
    > consider here. First, Macs have a very serious, very expensive
    > marketing effort behind them. That's the ONLY reason Apple has gone
    > belly up. It's worth noting that Linux has as far as it has with no
    > marketing at all.
    >
    > Secondly, Linux has taken over the web server market - a very
    > important market - despite massive marketing and pressure from MS to
    > stop it. Facts are facts: Linux is a solid product that has acquired
    > its position simply based on an ability to do the job required.
    >
    > MS retains pre-existing market position only based on sheer size and
    > deep pockets: if a smaller company had come out with Vista (without
    > the ability to force vendors to sell its latest OS), they would be
    > filing for bankruptcy.
    >
    > Vista is a flop and reflects MS's inability to produce quality
    > software, to listen to its real users, or to simply act in a
    > reasonable manner towards its customers.
    >
    >
    >
    >



    Apple has always advertised, and their product line has always been more
    expensive, but that is the way that Steve Jobs wants it. Apple products are
    not just a technology. They are a lifestyle.

    You would expect Linux to grab a large share of the PC server market. It is,
    after all, a child of UNIX. Microsoft will try to push their server
    products, and why not? They are very good, and hold a good portion of the
    market.

    The computer companies could easily say no to Microsoft, but they don't.
    They could load Linux distros on all OEM computers, but they don't. If you
    were a computer manufacturer, would you take the chance?

    Some said that XP would be a flop with its Fisher-Price desktop and lack of
    default security. Vista is not the flop that you would like it to be, and it
    will live on in Windows 7.

    Free stuff doesn't need advertising. If it is good enough, word of mouth
    will be more than enough. So why aren't Linux desktops outpacing Macs?

    A FREE sideshow desktop OS and the much vaunted 24000 FREE programs should
    do much better than they are doing, but the package lacks class and polish.

    Ultimately, people will use what they feel happy using and what suits them
    best, regardless of the ranting by Polly Parrot in Spain.

    Also, some Windows users are availing themselves of open source stuff,
    primarily in the form of Open Office. It installs in Windows just like any
    other Windows based office suite would, requiring no technical prowess on
    the part of the user. Until Linux distros for desktop reach this point, they
    will always run third in the race.

    --
    Mike Hall - MVP
    How to construct a good post..
    http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
    How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
    Mike's Window - My Blog..
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx





  4. #54
    Alias Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    Frank wrote:
    > Alias wrote:
    >
    >> Frank wrote:
    >>
    >>> Alias wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>> message news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
    >>>>>>>> pre-installed
    >>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
    >>>>>>>> signs of
    >>>>>>>> things to come.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
    >>>>>>> more for a Mac..
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Usage figures say it all.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
    >>>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
    >>>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you
    >>>> do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then.
    >>>> Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the
    >>>> slippery slope of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
    >>>>
    >>> Nice dance...now look at and try and deny the real figures.
    >>> urbuttoo is a dismal failure by any accounting.
    >>> Just like you are.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Can't address content so you make things up and spew the usual
    >> insults. You're a one trick pony, Frank.
    >>

    > It figures you wouldn't understand.
    > You're too stupid.
    >


    Yawn.

    Alias

  5. #55
    Alias Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    > "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    > news:gci6r9$qp4$1@aioe.org...
    >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>>>> message news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
    >>>>>>>>>> pre-installed
    >>>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are
    >>>>>>>>>> the signs of
    >>>>>>>>>> things to come.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
    >>>>>>>>> more for a Mac..
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Usage figures say it all.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't
    >>>>>> hear much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a
    >>>>>> few years ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream
    >>>>>> media. Now you do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine
    >>>>>> easily back then. Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a
    >>>>>> trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying
    >>>>>> customers in total disdain.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more
    >>>>> than a Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished
    >>>>> yet, not hardly..
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one was
    >>>> talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is not
    >>>> finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is on a
    >>>> trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying customers
    >>>> in total disdain." This means they are on their way out, not out
    >>>> already. Rome didn't fall in one day either.
    >>>>
    >>>> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be the
    >>>> dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to malware or
    >>>> suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two years.
    >>>> Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back numerous times
    >>>> because they need me to can clean up their machines that are
    >>>> constantly infested with malware. Those who have Ubuntu have not had
    >>>> that need.
    >>>>
    >>>> Alias
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux
    >>> even though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux
    >>> in LAST place still, even though it is FREE..
    >>>
    >>> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..
    >>>

    >>
    >> Your reading comprehension is totally skewered by your ill informed
    >> bias. A trend doesn't mean first place. People were talking about Macs
    >> back in 84, it made the mainstream media and movies were even made
    >> about it. So, naturally, it has grown some. Linux is just now getting
    >> the mainstream media attention. Do you get it yet?
    >>
    >> Alias

    >
    > Ill informed bias?


    Hey, he can read and repeat!

    > Apple is cock-a-hoop re their increased Mac sales.
    > Don't blame me for people wanting something decent even though they have
    > to pay more for it. I don't publish the sales figures.
    >
    > Let people make their own choice instead of bludgeoning them with XX
    > days to go before yet another 'more of the same' Ubuntu version.
    >
    > Your own personal campaign is doing nothing for the sales and use of
    > Linux other than getting people to look at Macs.
    >
    > It is a three horse race, and Linux for desktops is the one running on
    > aging wooden legs.


    Your reading comprehension skills need honing as you didn't reply to
    what I wrote but what you think I wrote.

    Again, sigh, Mac was being discussed in the mainstream media back over
    TWENTY FOUR YEARS AGO. Linux has made the scene in the mainstream media
    less than TWO YEARS AGO. Can you bloody add and subtract or should we
    add that to your lack of reading comprehension?

    Alias

  6. #56
    Alias Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    Frank wrote:
    > +Bob+ wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:38:02 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
    >> <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux
    >>> even though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux
    >>> in LAST place still, even though it is FREE..
    >>>
    >>> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..

    >>
    >>
    >> I'm no fan of LInux on the desktop but there are two factors to
    >> consider here. First, Macs have a very serious, very expensive
    >> marketing effort behind them. That's the ONLY reason Apple has gone
    >> belly up. It's worth noting that Linux has as far as it has with no
    >> marketing at all.
    >> Secondly, Linux has taken over the web server market - a very
    >> important market - despite massive marketing and pressure from MS to
    >> stop it. Facts are facts: Linux is a solid product that has acquired
    >> its position simply based on an ability to do the job required.
    >> MS retains pre-existing market position only based on sheer size and
    >> deep pockets: if a smaller company had come out with Vista (without
    >> the ability to force vendors to sell its latest OS), they would be
    >> filing for bankruptcy.
    >> Vista is a flop and reflects MS's inability to produce quality
    >> software, to listen to its real users, or to simply act in a
    >> reasonable manner towards its customers.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > Bullshit bob at it once again!


    Frank posts one of his "convincing rebuttals" again.

    Alias

  7. #57
    Frank Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    Alias wrote:
    > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >
    >> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >> news:gci6r9$qp4$1@aioe.org...
    >>
    >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>
    >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>> message
    >>>>>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
    >>>>>>>>>>> pre-installed
    >>>>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are
    >>>>>>>>>>> the signs of
    >>>>>>>>>>> things to come.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather
    >>>>>>>>>> pay more for a Mac..
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Usage figures say it all.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't
    >>>>>>> hear much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a
    >>>>>>> few years ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream
    >>>>>>> media. Now you do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine
    >>>>>>> easily back then. Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a
    >>>>>>> trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying
    >>>>>>> customers in total disdain.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more
    >>>>>> than a Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished
    >>>>>> yet, not hardly..
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one
    >>>>> was talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is
    >>>>> not finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is on
    >>>>> a trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying
    >>>>> customers in total disdain." This means they are on their way out,
    >>>>> not out already. Rome didn't fall in one day either.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be the
    >>>>> dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to malware
    >>>>> or suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two
    >>>>> years. Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back
    >>>>> numerous times because they need me to can clean up their machines
    >>>>> that are constantly infested with malware. Those who have Ubuntu
    >>>>> have not had that need.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Alias
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux
    >>>> even though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux
    >>>> in LAST place still, even though it is FREE..
    >>>>
    >>>> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Your reading comprehension is totally skewered by your ill informed
    >>> bias. A trend doesn't mean first place. People were talking about
    >>> Macs back in 84, it made the mainstream media and movies were even
    >>> made about it. So, naturally, it has grown some. Linux is just now
    >>> getting the mainstream media attention. Do you get it yet?
    >>>
    >>> Alias

    >>
    >>
    >> Ill informed bias?

    >
    >
    > Hey, he can read and repeat!
    >
    >> Apple is cock-a-hoop re their increased Mac sales. Don't blame me for
    >> people wanting something decent even though they have to pay more for
    >> it. I don't publish the sales figures.
    >>
    >> Let people make their own choice instead of bludgeoning them with XX
    >> days to go before yet another 'more of the same' Ubuntu version.
    >>
    >> Your own personal campaign is doing nothing for the sales and use of
    >> Linux other than getting people to look at Macs.
    >>
    >> It is a three horse race, and Linux for desktops is the one running on
    >> aging wooden legs.

    >
    >
    > Your reading comprehension skills need honing as you didn't reply to
    > what I wrote but what you think I wrote.
    >
    > Again, sigh, Mac was being discussed in the mainstream media back over
    > TWENTY FOUR YEARS AGO. Linux has made the scene in the mainstream media
    > less than TWO YEARS AGO. Can you bloody add and subtract or should we
    > add that to your lack of reading comprehension?
    >
    > Alias


    What an ill informed delusional liar you are.
    Who exactly do you think you are fooling...other than yourself?

  8. #58
    Alias Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    Frank wrote:
    > Alias wrote:
    >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:gci6r9$qp4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>
    >>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>> message
    >>>>>>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
    >>>>>>>>>>>> pre-installed
    >>>>>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are
    >>>>>>>>>>>> the signs of
    >>>>>>>>>>>> things to come.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather
    >>>>>>>>>>> pay more for a Mac..
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the
    >>>>>>>>>> world?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Usage figures say it all.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't
    >>>>>>>> hear much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a
    >>>>>>>> few years ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream
    >>>>>>>> media. Now you do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine
    >>>>>>>> easily back then. Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a
    >>>>>>>> trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying
    >>>>>>>> customers in total disdain.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more
    >>>>>>> than a Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not
    >>>>>>> finished yet, not hardly..
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one
    >>>>>> was talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is
    >>>>>> not finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is
    >>>>>> on a trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying
    >>>>>> customers in total disdain." This means they are on their way out,
    >>>>>> not out already. Rome didn't fall in one day either.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be
    >>>>>> the dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to
    >>>>>> malware or suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two
    >>>>>> years. Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back
    >>>>>> numerous times because they need me to can clean up their machines
    >>>>>> that are constantly infested with malware. Those who have Ubuntu
    >>>>>> have not had that need.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux
    >>>>> even though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux
    >>>>> in LAST place still, even though it is FREE..
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Your reading comprehension is totally skewered by your ill informed
    >>>> bias. A trend doesn't mean first place. People were talking about
    >>>> Macs back in 84, it made the mainstream media and movies were even
    >>>> made about it. So, naturally, it has grown some. Linux is just now
    >>>> getting the mainstream media attention. Do you get it yet?
    >>>>
    >>>> Alias
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Ill informed bias?

    >>
    >>
    >> Hey, he can read and repeat!
    >>
    >>> Apple is cock-a-hoop re their increased Mac sales. Don't blame me for
    >>> people wanting something decent even though they have to pay more for
    >>> it. I don't publish the sales figures.
    >>>
    >>> Let people make their own choice instead of bludgeoning them with XX
    >>> days to go before yet another 'more of the same' Ubuntu version.
    >>>
    >>> Your own personal campaign is doing nothing for the sales and use of
    >>> Linux other than getting people to look at Macs.
    >>>
    >>> It is a three horse race, and Linux for desktops is the one running
    >>> on aging wooden legs.

    >>
    >>
    >> Your reading comprehension skills need honing as you didn't reply to
    >> what I wrote but what you think I wrote.
    >>
    >> Again, sigh, Mac was being discussed in the mainstream media back over
    >> TWENTY FOUR YEARS AGO. Linux has made the scene in the mainstream
    >> media less than TWO YEARS AGO. Can you bloody add and subtract or
    >> should we add that to your lack of reading comprehension?
    >>
    >> Alias

    >
    > What an ill informed delusional liar you are.
    > Who exactly do you think you are fooling...other than yourself?


    And, yet again, Frank shows us all how he thinks he refutes an argument:
    with insults.

    Alias

  9. #59
    Frank Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    Alias wrote:

    > Frank wrote:
    >
    >> Alias wrote:
    >>
    >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:gci6r9$qp4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>
    >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>>>> message
    >>>>>>>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> pre-installed
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> the signs of
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> things to come.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather
    >>>>>>>>>>>> pay more for a Mac..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the
    >>>>>>>>>>> world?
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Usage figures say it all.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't
    >>>>>>>>> hear much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a
    >>>>>>>>> few years ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream
    >>>>>>>>> media. Now you do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux
    >>>>>>>>> machine easily back then. Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS
    >>>>>>>>> is on a trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your
    >>>>>>>>> paying customers in total disdain.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more
    >>>>>>>> than a Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not
    >>>>>>>> finished yet, not hardly..
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one
    >>>>>>> was talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS
    >>>>>>> is not finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS
    >>>>>>> is on a trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your
    >>>>>>> paying customers in total disdain." This means they are on their
    >>>>>>> way out, not out already. Rome didn't fall in one day either.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be
    >>>>>>> the dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to
    >>>>>>> malware or suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two
    >>>>>>> years. Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back
    >>>>>>> numerous times because they need me to can clean up their
    >>>>>>> machines that are constantly infested with malware. Those who
    >>>>>>> have Ubuntu have not had that need.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux
    >>>>>> even though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts
    >>>>>> Linux in LAST place still, even though it is FREE..
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Your reading comprehension is totally skewered by your ill informed
    >>>>> bias. A trend doesn't mean first place. People were talking about
    >>>>> Macs back in 84, it made the mainstream media and movies were even
    >>>>> made about it. So, naturally, it has grown some. Linux is just now
    >>>>> getting the mainstream media attention. Do you get it yet?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Alias
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Ill informed bias?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Hey, he can read and repeat!
    >>>
    >>>> Apple is cock-a-hoop re their increased Mac sales. Don't blame me
    >>>> for people wanting something decent even though they have to pay
    >>>> more for it. I don't publish the sales figures.
    >>>>
    >>>> Let people make their own choice instead of bludgeoning them with XX
    >>>> days to go before yet another 'more of the same' Ubuntu version.
    >>>>
    >>>> Your own personal campaign is doing nothing for the sales and use of
    >>>> Linux other than getting people to look at Macs.
    >>>>
    >>>> It is a three horse race, and Linux for desktops is the one running
    >>>> on aging wooden legs.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Your reading comprehension skills need honing as you didn't reply to
    >>> what I wrote but what you think I wrote.
    >>>
    >>> Again, sigh, Mac was being discussed in the mainstream media back
    >>> over TWENTY FOUR YEARS AGO. Linux has made the scene in the
    >>> mainstream media less than TWO YEARS AGO. Can you bloody add and
    >>> subtract or should we add that to your lack of reading comprehension?
    >>>
    >>> Alias

    >>
    >>
    >> What an ill informed delusional liar you are.
    >> Who exactly do you think you are fooling...other than yourself?

    >
    >
    > And, yet again, Frank shows us all how he thinks he refutes an argument:
    > with insults.
    >
    > Alias


    You are the insulting idiot in this ng. You are the one promoting a
    non-Microsoft os in a Microsoft ng.
    How dumb are you to continue to insult us and show how stupid you are?

  10. #60
    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    Default Re: People hate Linux

    "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    news:gcilf8$sej$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >> news:gci6r9$qp4$1@aioe.org...
    >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:gci4tn$dtm$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:gcgtrn$cr6$1@registered.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@gmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:gcg43i$4u4$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> "brummyfan" <brummyfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >>>>>>>>>> message
    >>>>>>>>>> news:2C6DEC98-5D09-4210-8905-DD063F9C90C7@microsoft.com...
    >>>>>>>>>>> There is a computer super store proudly presenting Ubuntu
    >>>>>>>>>>> pre-installed
    >>>>>>>>>>> systems on display in my neighborhood in UK. Well,these are the
    >>>>>>>>>>> signs of
    >>>>>>>>>>> things to come.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Those signs will disappear soon enough. People would rather pay
    >>>>>>>>>> more for a Mac..
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Since when are you a spokesperson for all the people in the world?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Usage figures say it all.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Statistics can be used to say almost anything. Fact: you didn't hear
    >>>>>>> much about Linux on XP General from it's inception until a few years
    >>>>>>> ago. You didn't see much about it in the mainstream media. Now you
    >>>>>>> do. You couldn't get a preinstalled Linux machine easily back then.
    >>>>>>> Now you can. Ever hear of trends? MS is on a trend, too, down the
    >>>>>>> slippery slope of holding your paying customers in total disdain.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Alias
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> To the point where they would rather pay more for a Mac.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It doesn't say much for Linux that people would rather pay more than
    >>>>>> a Vista box costs than go for the FREE option, does it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Consumers want a polished product.. take note.. MS is not finished
    >>>>>> yet, not hardly..
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> So you, too, have a reading comprehension problem. Again, no one was
    >>>>> talking about Linux three years ago and now everyone is. MS is not
    >>>>> finished, nor did I say it was. I wrote, and I quote, "MS is on a
    >>>>> trend, too, down the slippery slope of holding your paying customers
    >>>>> in total disdain." This means they are on their way out, not out
    >>>>> already. Rome didn't fall in one day either.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If what you say about a polished product is true, Linux will be the
    >>>>> dominant OS quite shortly being as it isn't vulnerable to malware or
    >>>>> suffer from BSODs like Windows does.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have been installing Ubuntu now on computers for almost two years.
    >>>>> Those who insisted on keeping Windows have been back numerous times
    >>>>> because they need me to can clean up their machines that are
    >>>>> constantly infested with malware. Those who have Ubuntu have not had
    >>>>> that need.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Alias
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Nothing wrong with my comprehension that Mac is outstripping Linux even
    >>>> though Mac is more expensive than a Vista PC.. this puts Linux in LAST
    >>>> place still, even though it is FREE..
    >>>>
    >>>> Last place, Alias, despite all of your efforts here..
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Your reading comprehension is totally skewered by your ill informed
    >>> bias. A trend doesn't mean first place. People were talking about Macs
    >>> back in 84, it made the mainstream media and movies were even made about
    >>> it. So, naturally, it has grown some. Linux is just now getting the
    >>> mainstream media attention. Do you get it yet?
    >>>
    >>> Alias

    >>
    >> Ill informed bias?

    >
    > Hey, he can read and repeat!
    >
    >> Apple is cock-a-hoop re their increased Mac sales. Don't blame me for
    >> people wanting something decent even though they have to pay more for it.
    >> I don't publish the sales figures.
    >>
    >> Let people make their own choice instead of bludgeoning them with XX days
    >> to go before yet another 'more of the same' Ubuntu version.
    >>
    >> Your own personal campaign is doing nothing for the sales and use of
    >> Linux other than getting people to look at Macs.
    >>
    >> It is a three horse race, and Linux for desktops is the one running on
    >> aging wooden legs.

    >
    > Your reading comprehension skills need honing as you didn't reply to what
    > I wrote but what you think I wrote.
    >
    > Again, sigh, Mac was being discussed in the mainstream media back over
    > TWENTY FOUR YEARS AGO. Linux has made the scene in the mainstream media
    > less than TWO YEARS AGO. Can you bloody add and subtract or should we add
    > that to your lack of reading comprehension?
    >
    > Alias



    OK, and I have said this before.

    If you can't set up a Windows machine for a client and give your clients
    enough knowledge to prevent problems, then you should NOT be doing computer
    support.

    If your only answer for users is to install a wooden OS that will isolate
    them from 90% of other computer users, then you should NOT be doing computer
    support

    In fact, you are not doing computer support. Your clients are just victims
    in your own personal war against Microsoft.

    I have every sympathy for the people you touch. They deserve better..

    --
    Mike Hall - MVP
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    http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
    How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
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