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  1. #11
    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    news:2EC83104-0378-4F67-A190-30CD56C2B386@microsoft.com...
    >
    >
    > "cqui3" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> a écrit dans le message de
    >> news:CF3CEF2D-2C61-46DA-90A3-E56B42A89816@microsoft.com...
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "Frank" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Sults wrote:
    >> >> > Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me
    >> >> > very
    >> >> > angry.
    >> >> > Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
    >> >> > replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
    >> >> >
    >> >> > "LesleyO" wrote:
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> >>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    >> >> >>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list.
    >> >> >>>I
    >> >> >>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon
    >> >> >>>as
    >> >> >>>I
    >> >> >>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional
    >> >> >>>blankouts
    >> >> >>>and
    >> >> >>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes
    >> >> >>>followed
    >> >> >>>by
    >> >> >>>restart.
    >> >> >>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
    >> >> >>>most
    >> >> >>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve
    >> >> >>>stability!
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying
    >> >> >>things
    >> >> >>like
    >> >> >>that here.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
    >> >> Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
    >> >> First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
    >> >> drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
    >> >> corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
    >> >> you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they
    >> >> are
    >> >> listed in display settings.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for suggestion!
    >> > I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are
    >> > also
    >> > with proper profiles.
    >> > The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then
    >> > the
    >> > problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate
    >> > some
    >> > process (for instance press save button) right after the first
    >> > recovery,
    >> > then
    >> > I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any
    >> > action,
    >> > the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
    >> > As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect,
    >> > that
    >> > this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any
    >> > influence
    >> > to the display drivers.

    >>
    >> If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or
    >> memory)
    >> problem.
    >>

    >
    > This is ahrd to believe, because in single display mode the system is rock
    > solid even under constant heavy load (several weeks of constant running
    > with
    > CPU load 100%).
    > With dual displays my problem appears even without any load (writing a
    > letter under MS Word or even when left idle with dual display activated).
    > Single display mode is absolutely stable with monitor connected either
    > connector of the video adapter.
    > Google gives 300000+ results with my error message. This should be driver
    > issue and maybe issue of the Vista OS.
    >
    > I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be
    > stable,
    > then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.



    I run dual displays under Vista with no problem at all, as do many others.
    Remove the Catalyst Control Panel..


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  2. #12
    Ringmaster Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:14:27 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.cmm> wrote:

    >At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
    >Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
    >First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
    >drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
    >corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
    >you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
    >listed in display settings.


    If you insist on lying you need to get your story straight. How can
    you be at work when you recently told us your sold your business?

    I'm sorry Frank. Really. Your problem is you're such a idiot it is too
    easy to point out what a fool you are.

  3. #13
    Sults Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?



    "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

    > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    > news:2EC83104-0378-4F67-A190-30CD56C2B386@microsoft.com...
    > >
    > >
    > > "cqui3" wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> a écrit dans le message de
    > >> news:CF3CEF2D-2C61-46DA-90A3-E56B42A89816@microsoft.com...
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > "Frank" wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> Sults wrote:
    > >> >> > Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me
    > >> >> > very
    > >> >> > angry.
    > >> >> > Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
    > >> >> > replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > "LesleyO" wrote:
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    > >> >> >>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list.
    > >> >> >>>I
    > >> >> >>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon
    > >> >> >>>as
    > >> >> >>>I
    > >> >> >>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional
    > >> >> >>>blankouts
    > >> >> >>>and
    > >> >> >>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes
    > >> >> >>>followed
    > >> >> >>>by
    > >> >> >>>restart.
    > >> >> >>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
    > >> >> >>>most
    > >> >> >>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve
    > >> >> >>>stability!
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying
    > >> >> >>things
    > >> >> >>like
    > >> >> >>that here.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
    > >> >> Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
    > >> >> First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
    > >> >> drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
    > >> >> corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
    > >> >> you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they
    > >> >> are
    > >> >> listed in display settings.
    > >> >
    > >> > Thanks for suggestion!
    > >> > I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are
    > >> > also
    > >> > with proper profiles.
    > >> > The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then
    > >> > the
    > >> > problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate
    > >> > some
    > >> > process (for instance press save button) right after the first
    > >> > recovery,
    > >> > then
    > >> > I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any
    > >> > action,
    > >> > the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
    > >> > As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect,
    > >> > that
    > >> > this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any
    > >> > influence
    > >> > to the display drivers.
    > >>
    > >> If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or
    > >> memory)
    > >> problem.
    > >>

    > >
    > > This is ahrd to believe, because in single display mode the system is rock
    > > solid even under constant heavy load (several weeks of constant running
    > > with
    > > CPU load 100%).
    > > With dual displays my problem appears even without any load (writing a
    > > letter under MS Word or even when left idle with dual display activated).
    > > Single display mode is absolutely stable with monitor connected either
    > > connector of the video adapter.
    > > Google gives 300000+ results with my error message. This should be driver
    > > issue and maybe issue of the Vista OS.
    > >
    > > I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be
    > > stable,
    > > then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.

    >
    >
    > I run dual displays under Vista with no problem at all, as do many others.
    > Remove the Catalyst Control Panel..
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mike Hall - MVP
    > How to construct a good post..
    > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
    > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
    > Mike's Window - My Blog..
    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
    >


    Thanks! I will try this!



  4. #14
    Sults Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?



    "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:

    > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    > news:C9CB9F91-1F95-4260-9EE6-EF2226851D8B@microsoft.com...
    > > "Telstar" wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message
    > >> news:%231GNSCEKJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > >> >
    > >> > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    > >> > news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
    > >> >>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
    > >> >> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as
    > >> >> I
    > >> >> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts
    > >> >> and
    > >> >> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed
    > >> >> by
    > >> >> restart.
    > >> >> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
    > >> >> most
    > >> >> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
    > >> >
    > >> > This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
    > >> > like that here.
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
    > >>

    > >
    > > Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on
    > > Core
    > > 2 Duo system?
    > > When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I found
    > > thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems to
    > > be
    > > quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped Working
    > > and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems to
    > > go
    > > into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.
    > >

    >
    >
    > If you have an ATI card, uninstall Catalyst Control Panel and just run with
    > the drivers. If after doing this, you have no control over dual displays,
    > download and run DispalyFusion..
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mike Hall - MVP
    > How to construct a good post..
    > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
    > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
    > Mike's Window - My Blog..
    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
    >
    >



    Ok, did it and so far so good!
    Thanks!

  5. #15
    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    news:39AF7998-63DE-4ADD-BDD4-F77A393FD78B@microsoft.com...
    >
    >
    > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
    >
    >> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    >> news:C9CB9F91-1F95-4260-9EE6-EF2226851D8B@microsoft.com...
    >> > "Telstar" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message
    >> >> news:%231GNSCEKJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> >> >
    >> >> > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
    >> >> > news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list.
    >> >> >>I
    >> >> >> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon
    >> >> >> as
    >> >> >> I
    >> >> >> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional
    >> >> >> blankouts
    >> >> >> and
    >> >> >> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes
    >> >> >> followed
    >> >> >> by
    >> >> >> restart.
    >> >> >> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
    >> >> >> most
    >> >> >> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve
    >> >> >> stability!
    >> >> >
    >> >> > This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying
    >> >> > things
    >> >> > like that here.
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> > Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on
    >> > Core
    >> > 2 Duo system?
    >> > When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I
    >> > found
    >> > thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems
    >> > to
    >> > be
    >> > quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped
    >> > Working
    >> > and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems
    >> > to
    >> > go
    >> > into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.
    >> >

    >>
    >>
    >> If you have an ATI card, uninstall Catalyst Control Panel and just run
    >> with
    >> the drivers. If after doing this, you have no control over dual displays,
    >> download and run DispalyFusion..
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mike Hall - MVP
    >> How to construct a good post..
    >> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
    >> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
    >> Mike's Window - My Blog..
    >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > Ok, did it and so far so good!
    > Thanks!



    The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever, and has
    caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..


    --
    Mike Hall - MVP
    How to construct a good post..
    http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
    How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
    Mike's Window - My Blog..
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx





  6. #16
    HeyBub Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>
    >> Ok, did it and so far so good!
    >> Thanks!

    >
    >
    > The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
    > and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..


    So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
    Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work to
    improve stability!" implied?



  7. #17
    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:OxggvYJKJHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
    >>> Thanks!

    >>
    >>
    >> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
    >> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..

    >
    > So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
    > Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work to
    > improve stability!" implied?
    >
    >



    I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
    utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
    appeared..

    --
    Mike Hall - MVP
    How to construct a good post..
    http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
    How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
    Mike's Window - My Blog..
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx





  8. #18
    Earle Horton Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
    news:uvGcFiJKJHA.5516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:OxggvYJKJHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
    >>>> Thanks!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
    >>> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..

    >>
    >> So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
    >> Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work
    >> to improve stability!" implied?
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
    > utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
    > appeared..
    >


    It's a good thing that I don't know this, because I am not having any
    problems with it. Using it under XP though...

    --
    Earle Horton -- earleh@terra.comx



  9. #19
    Duane Hebert Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
    news:uvGcFiJKJHA.5516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:OxggvYJKJHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
    >>>> Thanks!
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
    >>> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..

    >>
    >> So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
    >> Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work
    >> to improve stability!" implied?
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
    > utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
    > appeared..


    I have had Win2k and now Xp installed on my box at home and in both
    cases, I've removed the control panel. The
    software is bad and the support is hideous.
    I Don't have an ATI on my Linux box so I have no idea how well it works.
    Is there a Catalyst Control Panel on Linux?


  10. #20
    Duane Hebert Guest

    Default Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?

    > It's a good thing that I don't know this, because I am not having any
    > problems with it. Using it under XP though...


    Which version? Take a look at your event logs.

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