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Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
restart.
I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
> restart.
> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things like
that here.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me very angry.
Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
"LesleyO" wrote:
>
> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
> >I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
> > experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
> > enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
> > messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
> > restart.
> > I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
> > painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
>
> This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things like
> that here.
>
>
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:%231GNSCEKJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
>> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
>> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
>> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
>> restart.
>> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
>> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
>
> This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
> like that here.
>
It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Telstar" wrote:
>
> "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message
> news:%231GNSCEKJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> > news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
> >>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
> >> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
> >> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
> >> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
> >> restart.
> >> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
> >> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
> >
> > This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
> > like that here.
> >
>
> It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
>
Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on Core
2 Duo system?
When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I found
thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems to be
quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped Working
and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems to go
into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
Sults wrote:
> Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me very angry.
> Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
> replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
>
> "LesleyO" wrote:
>
>
>>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
>>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
>>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
>>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
>>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
>>>restart.
>>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
>>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
>>
>>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things like
>>that here.
>>
>>
At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
listed in display settings.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Frank" wrote:
> Sults wrote:
> > Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me very angry.
> > Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
> > replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
> >
> > "LesleyO" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> >>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
> >>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as I
> >>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts and
> >>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed by
> >>>restart.
> >>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is most
> >>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
> >>
> >>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things like
> >>that here.
> >>
> >>
> At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
> Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
> First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
> drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
> corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
> you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
> listed in display settings.
Thanks for suggestion!
I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are also
with proper profiles.
The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then the
problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate some
process (for instance press save button) right after the first recovery, then
I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any action,
the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect, that
this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any influence
to the display drivers.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
news:C9CB9F91-1F95-4260-9EE6-EF2226851D8B@microsoft.com...
> "Telstar" wrote:
>
>>
>> "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message
>> news:%231GNSCEKJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
>> > news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
>> >>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
>> >> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as
>> >> I
>> >> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts
>> >> and
>> >> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed
>> >> by
>> >> restart.
>> >> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
>> >> most
>> >> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
>> >
>> > This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
>> > like that here.
>> >
>>
>> It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
>>
>
> Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on
> Core
> 2 Duo system?
> When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I found
> thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems to
> be
> quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped Working
> and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems to
> go
> into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.
>
If you have an ATI card, uninstall Catalyst Control Panel and just run with
the drivers. If after doing this, you have no control over dual displays,
download and run DispalyFusion..
--
Mike Hall - MVP
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http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> a écrit dans le message de
news:CF3CEF2D-2C61-46DA-90A3-E56B42A89816@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Frank" wrote:
>
>> Sults wrote:
>> > Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me very
>> > angry.
>> > Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
>> > replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
>> >
>> > "LesleyO" wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
>> >>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
>> >>
>> >>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
>> >>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as
>> >>>I
>> >>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts
>> >>>and
>> >>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed
>> >>>by
>> >>>restart.
>> >>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
>> >>>most
>> >>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
>> >>
>> >>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
>> >>like
>> >>that here.
>> >>
>> >>
>> At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
>> Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
>> First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
>> drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
>> corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
>> you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
>> listed in display settings.
>
> Thanks for suggestion!
> I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are also
> with proper profiles.
> The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then the
> problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate some
> process (for instance press save button) right after the first recovery,
> then
> I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any
> action,
> the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
> As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect, that
> this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any
> influence
> to the display drivers.
If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or memory)
problem.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"cqui3" wrote:
>
> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> a écrit dans le message de
> news:CF3CEF2D-2C61-46DA-90A3-E56B42A89816@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Frank" wrote:
> >
> >> Sults wrote:
> >> > Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me very
> >> > angry.
> >> > Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
> >> > replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
> >> >
> >> > "LesleyO" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> >> >>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
> >> >>
> >> >>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
> >> >>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as
> >> >>>I
> >> >>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts
> >> >>>and
> >> >>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed
> >> >>>by
> >> >>>restart.
> >> >>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
> >> >>>most
> >> >>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
> >> >>
> >> >>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
> >> >>like
> >> >>that here.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
> >> Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
> >> First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
> >> drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
> >> corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
> >> you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
> >> listed in display settings.
> >
> > Thanks for suggestion!
> > I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are also
> > with proper profiles.
> > The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then the
> > problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate some
> > process (for instance press save button) right after the first recovery,
> > then
> > I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any
> > action,
> > the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
> > As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect, that
> > this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any
> > influence
> > to the display drivers.
>
> If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or memory)
> problem.
>
This is ahrd to believe, because in single display mode the system is rock
solid even under constant heavy load (several weeks of constant running with
CPU load 100%).
With dual displays my problem appears even without any load (writing a
letter under MS Word or even when left idle with dual display activated).
Single display mode is absolutely stable with monitor connected either
connector of the video adapter.
Google gives 300000+ results with my error message. This should be driver
issue and maybe issue of the Vista OS.
I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be stable,
then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
news:2EC83104-0378-4F67-A190-30CD56C2B386@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "cqui3" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> a écrit dans le message de
>> news:CF3CEF2D-2C61-46DA-90A3-E56B42A89816@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Frank" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Sults wrote:
>> >> > Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me
>> >> > very
>> >> > angry.
>> >> > Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
>> >> > replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
>> >> >
>> >> > "LesleyO" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list.
>> >> >>>I
>> >> >>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon
>> >> >>>as
>> >> >>>I
>> >> >>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional
>> >> >>>blankouts
>> >> >>>and
>> >> >>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes
>> >> >>>followed
>> >> >>>by
>> >> >>>restart.
>> >> >>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
>> >> >>>most
>> >> >>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve
>> >> >>>stability!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying
>> >> >>things
>> >> >>like
>> >> >>that here.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
>> >> Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
>> >> First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
>> >> drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
>> >> corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
>> >> you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they
>> >> are
>> >> listed in display settings.
>> >
>> > Thanks for suggestion!
>> > I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are
>> > also
>> > with proper profiles.
>> > The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then
>> > the
>> > problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate
>> > some
>> > process (for instance press save button) right after the first
>> > recovery,
>> > then
>> > I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any
>> > action,
>> > the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
>> > As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect,
>> > that
>> > this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any
>> > influence
>> > to the display drivers.
>>
>> If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or
>> memory)
>> problem.
>>
>
> This is ahrd to believe, because in single display mode the system is rock
> solid even under constant heavy load (several weeks of constant running
> with
> CPU load 100%).
> With dual displays my problem appears even without any load (writing a
> letter under MS Word or even when left idle with dual display activated).
> Single display mode is absolutely stable with monitor connected either
> connector of the video adapter.
> Google gives 300000+ results with my error message. This should be driver
> issue and maybe issue of the Vista OS.
>
> I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be
> stable,
> then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.
I run dual displays under Vista with no problem at all, as do many others.
Remove the Catalyst Control Panel..
--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
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Mike's Window - My Blog..
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:14:27 -0700, Frank <fab@notspam.cmm> wrote:
>At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
>Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
>First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
>drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
>corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
>you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they are
>listed in display settings.
If you insist on lying you need to get your story straight. How can
you be at work when you recently told us your sold your business?
I'm sorry Frank. Really. Your problem is you're such a idiot it is too
easy to point out what a fool you are.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> news:2EC83104-0378-4F67-A190-30CD56C2B386@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "cqui3" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> a écrit dans le message de
> >> news:CF3CEF2D-2C61-46DA-90A3-E56B42A89816@microsoft.com...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Frank" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Sults wrote:
> >> >> > Sorry LesleyO, but loosing my work several times in a row, made me
> >> >> > very
> >> >> > angry.
> >> >> > Now I am calm again, but seems, like I should more actively search
> >> >> > replacement for Windows to save my nerves.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "LesleyO" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list.
> >> >> >>>I
> >> >> >>>experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon
> >> >> >>>as
> >> >> >>>I
> >> >> >>>enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional
> >> >> >>>blankouts
> >> >> >>>and
> >> >> >>>messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes
> >> >> >>>followed
> >> >> >>>by
> >> >> >>>restart.
> >> >> >>>I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
> >> >> >>>most
> >> >> >>>painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve
> >> >> >>>stability!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying
> >> >> >>things
> >> >> >>like
> >> >> >>that here.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> At work we have about six desktops running dual monitors with Vista
> >> >> Ultimate both X32 & X64 with mainly ATI vcards with no problems.
> >> >> First thing to do is to check your vcards web site for the latest
> >> >> drivers. if you are using the latest drivers then they may have become
> >> >> corrupted and you should uninstall and reinstall them. Also make sure
> >> >> you have the proper profiles for both of your monitors and that they
> >> >> are
> >> >> listed in display settings.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for suggestion!
> >> > I already did that. Display drivers (ATI) are updated, monitors are
> >> > also
> >> > with proper profiles.
> >> > The system works several hours with dual monitors just fine, but then
> >> > the
> >> > problem appears again. I have noticed, that if I manage to activate
> >> > some
> >> > process (for instance press save button) right after the first
> >> > recovery,
> >> > then
> >> > I can work several hours without the problem. But if I do not do any
> >> > action,
> >> > the error will sart to cycle and finally restarts the computer.
> >> > As my action has some influence on the problem, therefore I suspect,
> >> > that
> >> > this is Vistas fault. My actions with MS Word should not have any
> >> > influence
> >> > to the display drivers.
> >>
> >> If my computer acted like that I would suspect a hardware (board, or
> >> memory)
> >> problem.
> >>
> >
> > This is ahrd to believe, because in single display mode the system is rock
> > solid even under constant heavy load (several weeks of constant running
> > with
> > CPU load 100%).
> > With dual displays my problem appears even without any load (writing a
> > letter under MS Word or even when left idle with dual display activated).
> > Single display mode is absolutely stable with monitor connected either
> > connector of the video adapter.
> > Google gives 300000+ results with my error message. This should be driver
> > issue and maybe issue of the Vista OS.
> >
> > I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be
> > stable,
> > then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.
>
>
> I run dual displays under Vista with no problem at all, as do many others.
> Remove the Catalyst Control Panel..
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
Thanks! I will try this!
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> news:C9CB9F91-1F95-4260-9EE6-EF2226851D8B@microsoft.com...
> > "Telstar" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message
> >> news:%231GNSCEKJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
> >> > news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
> >> >>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list. I
> >> >> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon as
> >> >> I
> >> >> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional blankouts
> >> >> and
> >> >> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes followed
> >> >> by
> >> >> restart.
> >> >> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
> >> >> most
> >> >> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve stability!
> >> >
> >> > This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying things
> >> > like that here.
> >> >
> >>
> >> It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
> >>
> >
> > Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on
> > Core
> > 2 Duo system?
> > When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I found
> > thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems to
> > be
> > quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped Working
> > and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems to
> > go
> > into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.
> >
>
>
> If you have an ATI card, uninstall Catalyst Control Panel and just run with
> the drivers. If after doing this, you have no control over dual displays,
> download and run DispalyFusion..
>
>
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>
Ok, did it and so far so good!
Thanks!
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
>
>> "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
>> news:C9CB9F91-1F95-4260-9EE6-EF2226851D8B@microsoft.com...
>> > "Telstar" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "LesleyO " <lesleyo@DELETETHIStelusplanet.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:%231GNSCEKJHA.4600@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Sults" <eesnimi.perenimi@mail.ee> wrote in message
>> >> > news:C5C1AE8E-34AC-47D6-B0A4-774E9CDB9F60@microsoft.com...
>> >> >>I use display adapter that is in Vista Hardware compatibility list.
>> >> >>I
>> >> >> experienced zero problems with single display settings. But as soon
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> enable dual display settings I will start to get occasional
>> >> >> blankouts
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> messages, that display driver stopped responding, sometimes
>> >> >> followed
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> restart.
>> >> >> I have used Dual displays since Windows 98, but under Vista this is
>> >> >> most
>> >> >> painful. Please, stop the crap and do some work to improve
>> >> >> stability!
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a user-to-user group, not Microsoft. No point in saying
>> >> > things
>> >> > like that here.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> It is clearly a driver issue. I have absolutely no such problems.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Maybe this is somehow related with the fact that I use 64 bit Vista on
>> > Core
>> > 2 Duo system?
>> > When I did some research in the Internet using the error message, I
>> > found
>> > thousans of messages describing similar problem, so the problem seems
>> > to
>> > be
>> > quite common. The error message is BTW "Display Driver has stopped
>> > Working
>> > and has recovered". Sometimes it recovers well, but sometimes it seems
>> > to
>> > go
>> > into cycle and after 4..5 cycles performes memory dump and restart.
>> >
>>
>>
>> If you have an ATI card, uninstall Catalyst Control Panel and just run
>> with
>> the drivers. If after doing this, you have no control over dual displays,
>> download and run DispalyFusion..
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>
>
> Ok, did it and so far so good!
> Thanks!
The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever, and has
caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>
>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
>> Thanks!
>
>
> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..
So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work to
improve stability!" implied?
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"HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
>>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
>> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..
>
> So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
> Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work to
> improve stability!" implied?
>
>
I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
appeared..
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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> "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OxggvYJKJHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
>>> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..
>>
>> So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
>> Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work
>> to improve stability!" implied?
>>
>>
>
>
> I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
> utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
> appeared..
>
It's a good thing that I don't know this, because I am not having any
problems with it. Using it under XP though...
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
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> "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OxggvYJKJHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
>>> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..
>>
>> So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and not
>> Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some work
>> to improve stability!" implied?
>>
>>
>
>
> I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
> utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first
> appeared..
I have had Win2k and now Xp installed on my box at home and in both
cases, I've removed the control panel. The
software is bad and the support is hideous.
I Don't have an ATI on my Linux box so I have no idea how well it works.
Is there a Catalyst Control Panel on Linux?
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
> It's a good thing that I don't know this, because I am not having any
> problems with it. Using it under XP though...
Which version? Take a look at your event logs.
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1.2.2475.36837, "ATI CATALYST® Control Center is a Microsoft® .NET
Framework-based application and uses DirectSkinTM OCX skinning technology
from Stardock® Corp. Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0.50727.1433."
Nothing interesting in the event logs.
The Control Center takes forever to launch though. I assumed that this was
because it was a .NET Framework application. I am using it on my Dell
Inspiron 1501 to make an external monitor the main one when I have the
machine docked on my desk. Is there a better way to do this?
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"Duane Hebert" <spoo@flarn.com> wrote in message
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>> It's a good thing that I don't know this, because I am not having any
>> problems with it. Using it under XP though...
>
> Which version? Take a look at your event logs.
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I've been running dual displays with ATI Radeon 2600XT with no problems
in Vista.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:27:05 -0600, "Earle Horton" <earleh@terra.comx>
wrote:
>Using it under XP though...
In case you missed the sign on the door: this is a VISTA group.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Duane Hebert" <spoo@flarn.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:uvGcFiJKJHA.5516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OxggvYJKJHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
>>>> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared..
>>>
>>> So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and
>>> not Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some
>>> work to improve stability!" implied?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
>> utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it
>> first appeared..
>
> I have had Win2k and now Xp installed on my box at home and in both
> cases, I've removed the control panel. The
> software is bad and the support is hideous.
> I Don't have an ATI on my Linux box so I have no idea how well it works.
> Is there a Catalyst Control Panel on Linux?
As far as I am aware, no there isn't..
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
this thread got my attention, describing the problems i have perfectly,
but i have nVidia 8400M GS. I am using the latest HP driver, and my BIOS
is up to date.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
On Oct 7, 7:48 pm, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
> "Duane Hebert" <s...@flarn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:OKmgGwJKJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> >news:uvGcFiJKJHA.5516@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> "HeyBub" <hey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:OxggvYJKJHA.2444@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
> >>>>> Ok, did it and so far so good!
> >>>>> Thanks!
>
> >>>> The ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst utilities ever,
> >>>> and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it first appeared...
>
> >>> So, you're saying the fault lies with a 3rd party bit of software and
> >>> not Microsoft as the OP's statement "Please, stop the crap and do some
> >>> work to improve stability!" implied?
>
> >> I am saying that the ATI Catalyst Control Panel rates among the worst
> >> utilities ever, and has caused sporadic problems on and off since it
> >> first appeared..
>
> > I have had Win2k and now Xp installed on my box at home and in both
> > cases, I've removed the control panel. The
> > software is bad and the support is hideous.
> > I Don't have an ATI on my Linux box so I have no idea how well it works..
> > Is there a Catalyst Control Panel on Linux?
>
> As far as I am aware, no there isn't..
>
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If you uninstall the Catalyst program, how do you enable crossfire if
you have multiple GPU's? I'd like to get rid of Catalyst but am
unsure of this...
Regards,
Matt
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"RemyMaza" <RemyMaza@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 7, 7:48 pm, "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
>If you uninstall the Catalyst program, how do you enable crossfire if
>you have multiple GPU's? I'd like to get rid of Catalyst but am
>unsure of this...
I don't think that you can.
The tech support at ATI suggests installing
an older version of the program/driver as an alternative. Maybe that
could help. As for the access violations etc reported in the event logs,
they say that it shouldn't affect performance so maybe it's just my system
that seems sluggish with this installed.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"VistaLava" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> this thread got my attention, describing the problems i have perfectly,
> but i have nVidia 8400M GS. I am using the latest HP driver, and my BIOS
> is up to date.
>
>
> --
> VistaLava
Have you looked into whether or not the latest version of Smart Panel (3.5)
will resolve your problem? It did for me.
MLD
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
OOPs, my comment was meant for those with the Epson Scanner problem--sorry
for the error.
MLD
"MLD" <MLD@verizon.net> wrote in message news:gcia5f$9i9$1@aioe.org...
>
> "VistaLava" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:160295279120c860d48c70037aae945c@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> this thread got my attention, describing the problems i have perfectly,
>> but i have nVidia 8400M GS. I am using the latest HP driver, and my BIOS
>> is up to date.
>>
>>
>> --
>> VistaLava
>
>
> Have you looked into whether or not the latest version of Smart Panel
> (3.5) will resolve your problem? It did for me.
> MLD
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
>> I should try to use dual display under Knoppix too, if this will be
>> stable,
>> then it is clear, that Windows system is faulty.
>
>
> I run dual displays under Vista with no problem at all, as do many others.
> Remove the Catalyst Control Panel..
Don't waste your breath, Mike. The OP is obviously *desperate* to blame
Vista. Let's hope he gives up on it and gets Linux instead. Give us all
some peace.
SteveT
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I am having the same problem. running dual monitors on a ATI raedon 2600 card. I always had the little blackout and driver recovery message. but now the vga monitor won't come out of stand by unless I mess with the display properties. Dell sent me a new video card... same problem. Driver is up to date. So they said it is unstable because I am running one DVI and one VGA with a DVI adapter. will uninstalling the Catalyst control panel help this?
Thanks
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"Gumbo" <Gumbo.3h8m3b@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
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>
> I am having the same problem. running dual monitors on a ATI raedon 2600
> card. I always had the little blackout and driver recovery message. but
> now the vga monitor won't come out of stand by unless I mess with the
> display properties. Dell sent me a new video card... same problem.
> Driver is up to date. So they said it is unstable because I am running
> one DVI and one VGA with a DVI adapter. will uninstalling the Catalyst
> control panel help this?
> Thanks
I had this problem until I got the latest drivers from ATI. I think it
was in June. Not a single problem since. I also have a 2600 with 512
megs RAM. I run a 24" from the DVI port and a 22" from the VGA port.
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message
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> "Gumbo" <Gumbo.3h8m3b@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
> news:Gumbo.3h8m3b@winvistaclub.com...
>>
>> I am having the same problem. running dual monitors on a ATI raedon 2600
>> card. I always had the little blackout and driver recovery message. but
>> now the vga monitor won't come out of stand by unless I mess with the
>> display properties. Dell sent me a new video card... same problem.
>> Driver is up to date. So they said it is unstable because I am running
>> one DVI and one VGA with a DVI adapter. will uninstalling the Catalyst
>> control panel help this?
>> Thanks
>
> I had this problem until I got the latest drivers from ATI. I think it
> was in June. Not a single problem since. I also have a 2600 with 512
> megs RAM. I run a 24" from the DVI port and a 22" from the VGA port.
Just to follow-up, my driver is dated 6/2/2008, and is version 8.501.0.0.
I have had no problems since installing this. I have never used the
Catalyst Control Panel. Just install the driver.
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:30:45 +0530, Gumbo <Gumbo.3h8m3b@winvistaclub.com>
wrote:
>
>I am having the same problem. running dual monitors on a ATI raedon 2600
>card. I always had the little blackout and driver recovery message. but
>now the vga monitor won't come out of stand by unless I mess with the
>display properties. Dell sent me a new video card... same problem.
>Driver is up to date. So they said it is unstable because I am running
>one DVI and one VGA with a DVI adapter. will uninstalling the Catalyst
>control panel help this?
>Thanks
Just my opinion, 7 years with ATI. I now use a geforce on a dual display with
no problems. DVI & VGA.
I figured ATI was the greatest with the AIO TV graphics card.
my 1st one had zero problems.
the 2nd one 8400 was nothing but trouble with EVERY update. ATI does NOT know
how to write software.
yeah it's hard to admit you bought trash, especially if it's almost new.
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Thanks Bob
I am running driver 8.530... I'll try to find the one you use and see if that helps it
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Re: Why Vista crashes so often when dual display is enabled?
I am having the same problem, I had a GeForce 8400 and they replaced it with
a GeForce 8600GT and still have the same problem. and I also run DVI & VGA..
Funny thing is it only happens when I watch a movie on 1 screen and do
something else on the other.
"Gumbo" <Gumbo.3h8m3b@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
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>
> I am having the same problem. running dual monitors on a ATI raedon 2600
> card. I always had the little blackout and driver recovery message. but
> now the vga monitor won't come out of stand by unless I mess with the
> display properties. Dell sent me a new video card... same problem.
> Driver is up to date. So they said it is unstable because I am running
> one DVI and one VGA with a DVI adapter. will uninstalling the Catalyst
> control panel help this?
> Thanks
>
>
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Okay, I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to mention to Sults that ATI released new drivers a couple of weeks ago. I had the same problem as you with "atikmdag stopped working but has recovered" message (sometimes this was continuous so it was very hard to save my files). I did everything other posters (in other forums) suggested including turning off transparency. Nothing worked.
But all is smooth sailing with the new drivers. I haven't had any crashes like that since I put in the new drivers. (Before it was at least every 2-3 days.)
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I have a problem like this, but it happens in both dual and single monitor configs. I'm using an ATI vid card. It usually happens while watching an mpg file or DVD.
I've tried getting a card replacement, but the new card does the same thing.