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  1. #1
    fusiooon Guest

    Default Re: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.


    I have a acer 5103.

    Turion TL-52 1.6 GHZ
    2GB RAM
    ATI Radeon X1300

    I've been using vista on this machine for a year without any problems,
    had it all tweaked out and just when everything was good (I think it was
    after a windows update restart...) it took vista in the range of 10
    minutes to load up and become usable. I thought it might have just been
    the updates but ever since I've been experiencing this problem. Before
    the whole boot up process from pressing the power button to usability
    took just under 2 minutes, now it takes 10-15. After the 15 minute boot
    everything works as it should, just like before. I've been trying
    everything to get this resolved. It has been a month now and I fear the
    only way to get vista working properly will be a format and installation
    of windows. Things I've done:

    Uninstalled unnecessary programs
    Defraged hard drives (did a boot defrag)
    Cleaned the registry
    Defraged the registry
    Got rid of all but necessary startup programs (about 9 running now)
    Cleared the drives of all unnecessary files, temp data
    Cleared the pagefile
    Deleted hibernation file

    after this I redefraged in a way so all files would be contiguous.
    Nothing helped. I know it's a problem with vista because I can run any
    old linux distribution and it runs like a dream. I really don't want to
    reinstall windows, for one, acer is so kind and don't even give you the
    windows CD with the notebook, just a lame "factory setting backup
    CD/DVD" you can make yourself but I've got windows and all my programs
    set up the way I want and it has taken me a year to have it this. The
    only thing I haven't done is gone and reinstall all the drivers, because
    usually this does more harm than good.
    So I hope someone could help me.


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  2. #2
    Ken Blake, MVP Guest

    Default Re: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:28:37 +0530, fusiooon
    <fusiooon.3h38jd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

    >
    > I have a acer 5103.
    >
    > Turion TL-52 1.6 GHZ
    > 2GB RAM
    > ATI Radeon X1300
    >
    > I've been using vista on this machine for a year without any problems,
    > had it all tweaked out and just when everything was good (I think it was
    > after a windows update restart...) it took vista in the range of 10
    > minutes to load up and become usable. I thought it might have just been
    > the updates but ever since I've been experiencing this problem. Before
    > the whole boot up process from pressing the power button to usability
    > took just under 2 minutes, now it takes 10-15. After the 15 minute boot
    > everything works as it should, just like before.



    Ten to 15 minutes is certainly on the long side. On the other hand, if
    everything else is OK, most of us power on and boot once a day or less
    frequently, and even a time like that doesn't hurt very much.

    I press the power button and go get my coffee. When I come back it's
    finished booting. I don't know how long it took and I don't care.


    > I've been trying
    > everything to get this resolved. It has been a month now and I fear the
    > only way to get vista working properly will be a format and installation
    > of windows.



    That is seldom a solution to such a problem, and even if it is, you
    don't find out what was wrong. That means that you will probably
    repeat the behavior that caused it and soon find yourself back in the
    same situation.


    > Things I've done:
    >
    > Uninstalled unnecessary programs



    What's installed but not running has no effect on performance, boot
    time or anything else. The only bad thing about having an unnecessary
    program installed is that it wastes a little disk space (and that's
    almost certainly unrelated to your problem).


    > Defraged hard drives (did a boot defrag)



    Since you find performance after booting OK, it's highly unlikely that
    this had any effect on the issue.


    > Cleaned the registry



    A very poor thing to do, problems or not. Registry cleaning programs
    are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
    dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
    cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
    cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
    entries doesn't really hurt you.

    The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    it may have.



    > Defraged the registry



    No effect on the issue. Defragging the registry very seldom has any
    effect on performance.


    > Got rid of all but necessary startup programs



    Good, but...


    > (about 9 running now)



    ....their number (despite how often you see people telling you about
    it) is irrelevant. What could very likely be a factor here is *which*
    programs are starting automatically. Which are they?


    > Cleared the drives of all unnecessary files, temp data



    Both good to do, but highly unlikely to be a factor in this issue.


    > Cleared the pagefile



    Completely unnecessary.


    > Deleted hibernation file



    Again, unrelated to your problem.


    > after this I redefraged in a way so all files would be contiguous.



    Highly unlikely to be a factor.

    You don't mention anything about which anti-virus and anti-spyware
    programs you run and whether they are kept up to date. This could very
    likely be a factor.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup

  3. #3
    Paul Montgomery Guest

    Default Re: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:28:37 +0530, fusiooon
    <fusiooon.3h38jd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

    >I really don't want to
    >reinstall windows, for one, acer is so kind and don't even give you the
    >windows CD with the notebook, just a lame "factory setting backup
    >CD/DVD" you can make yourself but I've got windows and all my programs
    >set up the way I want and it has taken me a year to have it this.


    WHAT? All that work and you don't have a backup of a working copy?

    That can't be laid in Acer's lap.

  4. #4
    Tom W. Guest

    Default Re: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.

    That can be very long in some occasions, I don't want to wait 15 minutes in
    a 50 minutes lesson for my laptop to boot...

    Now it does it in about a minute and that's fine.


    Process Monitor and Performance Tools are two good tools to analyze the boot
    (Like BootVis was there for XP), the second option also provides a forced
    boot preparation method.

    Event logs can also provide good information on what programs are delaying
    you, I guess just one of your programs or services is failing in one or
    another way.


    Good luck and have fun.

    "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
    news:j0qve4p1tb4c23sfm7c2971ds615fbtpa6@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:28:37 +0530, fusiooon
    > <fusiooon.3h38jd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> I have a acer 5103.
    >>
    >> Turion TL-52 1.6 GHZ
    >> 2GB RAM
    >> ATI Radeon X1300
    >>
    >> I've been using vista on this machine for a year without any problems,
    >> had it all tweaked out and just when everything was good (I think it was
    >> after a windows update restart...) it took vista in the range of 10
    >> minutes to load up and become usable. I thought it might have just been
    >> the updates but ever since I've been experiencing this problem. Before
    >> the whole boot up process from pressing the power button to usability
    >> took just under 2 minutes, now it takes 10-15. After the 15 minute boot
    >> everything works as it should, just like before.

    >
    >
    > Ten to 15 minutes is certainly on the long side. On the other hand, if
    > everything else is OK, most of us power on and boot once a day or less
    > frequently, and even a time like that doesn't hurt very much.
    >
    > I press the power button and go get my coffee. When I come back it's
    > finished booting. I don't know how long it took and I don't care.
    >
    >
    >> I've been trying
    >> everything to get this resolved. It has been a month now and I fear the
    >> only way to get vista working properly will be a format and installation
    >> of windows.

    >
    >
    > That is seldom a solution to such a problem, and even if it is, you
    > don't find out what was wrong. That means that you will probably
    > repeat the behavior that caused it and soon find yourself back in the
    > same situation.
    >
    >
    >> Things I've done:
    >>
    >> Uninstalled unnecessary programs

    >
    >
    > What's installed but not running has no effect on performance, boot
    > time or anything else. The only bad thing about having an unnecessary
    > program installed is that it wastes a little disk space (and that's
    > almost certainly unrelated to your problem).
    >
    >
    >> Defraged hard drives (did a boot defrag)

    >
    >
    > Since you find performance after booting OK, it's highly unlikely that
    > this had any effect on the issue.
    >
    >
    >> Cleaned the registry

    >
    >
    > A very poor thing to do, problems or not. Registry cleaning programs
    > are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
    > dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
    > cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
    > cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
    > entries doesn't really hurt you.
    >
    > The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
    > removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
    > it may have.
    >
    >
    >
    >> Defraged the registry

    >
    >
    > No effect on the issue. Defragging the registry very seldom has any
    > effect on performance.
    >
    >
    >> Got rid of all but necessary startup programs

    >
    >
    > Good, but...
    >
    >
    >> (about 9 running now)

    >
    >
    > ...their number (despite how often you see people telling you about
    > it) is irrelevant. What could very likely be a factor here is *which*
    > programs are starting automatically. Which are they?
    >
    >
    >> Cleared the drives of all unnecessary files, temp data

    >
    >
    > Both good to do, but highly unlikely to be a factor in this issue.
    >
    >
    >> Cleared the pagefile

    >
    >
    > Completely unnecessary.
    >
    >
    >> Deleted hibernation file

    >
    >
    > Again, unrelated to your problem.
    >
    >
    >> after this I redefraged in a way so all files would be contiguous.

    >
    >
    > Highly unlikely to be a factor.
    >
    > You don't mention anything about which anti-virus and anti-spyware
    > programs you run and whether they are kept up to date. This could very
    > likely be a factor.
    >
    > --
    > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
    > Please Reply to the Newsgroup



  5. #5
    Kayman Guest

    Default Re: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.

    On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:28:37 +0530, fusiooon wrote:

    <snip for brevity>

    > The only thing I haven't done is gone and reinstall all the drivers,
    > because usually this does more harm than good.


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  7. #7
    Kerry Brown Guest

    Default Re: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.

    "fusiooon" <fusiooon.3h38jd@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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    > I've been using vista on this machine for a year without any problems,
    > had it all tweaked out and just when everything was good (I think it was
    > after a windows update restart...) it took vista in the range of 10
    > minutes to load up and become usable. I thought it might have just been
    > the updates but ever since I've been experiencing this problem. Before
    > the whole boot up process from pressing the power button to usability
    > took just under 2 minutes, now it takes 10-15. After the 15 minute boot
    > everything works as it should, just like before. I've been trying
    > everything to get this resolved. It has been a month now and I fear the
    > only way to get vista working properly will be a format and installation
    > of windows. Things I've done:


    Perhaps your antivirus program is doing a scan at startup?

    --
    Kerry Brown
    MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
    http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
    http://vistahelpca.blogspot.com/





  8. #8
    david manvell Guest

    Default Re: Vista VERY slow for 10 minutes after startup.

    Start by turning off your antivirus and spyware programs. make sure they are
    turned off at startup as well. Also turn off windows defender and indexing of
    your hard drives. I suspect its your antivirus or spyware program that is
    doing it. They usually cause a lot of issues with the system booting up.


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